[iQuite agree it does nt really matter where we play, after all what does the club need to do regarding managing the ground like in the past. I suppose all the day to day stuff is done by the Stadium management. You would think that would allow club officials to meet, greet and win over potential sponsors![/i



[iThe club does need to be ambitious, realistic and consistent which needs a 5 year plan, hard work, honesty and vision. Does anyone at the club have these attribute![/i



[iThe club previously had 2000 motivated fans, but over the years these numbers have been worn down by broken promises, constant begging for money, poor and inept management, virtually every former Dons supporter or former sponsor you meet can tell you a story of a dodgy deal or how they have been let down by people involved in the club over the years. This will never change without a total clear out, which is very unlikely! [/i

FWIW I think we have to be targetting a top-4 finish and promotion as it's the only way we'll ever get any derby matches and the chance of better gates. On top of that with potential 'new' Clubs arriving on the scene in 2013 it may become even more difficult to get out of Championship One after next season.

Can we do it? Why not. Yes some players have left but others will arrive (some already have). There are keys areas which need strengthening and this is something the Club have said they are aware of and working on.

So given a little more improvement next season and a little more consistency we have a decent chance. Why, you may ask?

We were very close at one point to charging into second place last season but suffered one or two crucial losses. I admit with Whitehaven's points deduction you could argue that if we had we may only have been the third best team morally but we have 4 spots to aim for next season and additionally, and this is quite a big factor for me, no Swinton or Keighley and two teams replacing them whose ability to compete week-in-week out may be questionable.

The bookies don't fancy Crusaders even in Championship One and to be honest neither do I and can Barrow recover immediately, I'm not convinced. I can't honestly see how there will be enough players in Cumbria for each of the three sides to mount a serious challenge considering the potential payment structure in this division (although I accept that may come back to bite me, they do at least have some 'local' derbies).

So for me, yes the top-4 is definitely achievable.

i aggree we should be looking top 4 minimum, i also think looking back we maybe should have pushed the budget boundarys to get promotion last year then derbies nxt year equals more bums on seats but thats just me! plus players might not want to leave to play higher level or could attract more players!

If clubs who finish 4th & 5th reach the Grand Final then clubs who finish 1st & 2nd would be promoted.

It should be clubs who finish 1st, 2nd,3rd & 4th. In my humble opinion .

sorry i thought it was top 4 went up its going to be confusing come end of season

No its def not the top 4. It is the top club , the 2 clubs who get to the grand final & the highest placed league club. see www.therfl.co.uk/news Hope this helps.

No its def not the top 4. It is the top club , the 2 clubs who get to the grand final & the highest placed league club. see www.therfl.co.uk/news Hope this helps.