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Quote: Starbug "Yes I did , but nowhere did I suggest you had ' cheated ' at anything , you announced what was in the ' books ' , I just questioned how it had got into the ' books '

Any director with a spare fifty grand in the bank could easily put it through the clubs account every week of the year if he wanted to giving a 2.6 million turnover , if you don't understand that , it isn't my fault , have you announced similar figures for the following year ?

Because if you have , then a max SL salary cap spend should be no issue for you

As I have stated , I have more than balanced any criticism of Widnes' s supposed financial performance with many , many posts extoling the positives you have given to the Championships and will bring to SL in the next few years'"


I didn’t mind you questioning the results. I couldn’t care less what you think. It was the constant trolling on this board and demanding that all the Widnes supporters on it bow down and agree with every word you say, that ed me and the rest of us off. You did then go onto the Halifax board and expressed your opinion vehemently, suggesting that this would disadvantage Halifax’s own bid and winding them up about it. Basically you were telling them that we could be cheating them out of a Super League licence. There is no other way to interperate what you were doing - there just isn't, because you were.

Now we have a situation where Leigh, utterly desperate to meet the on-field qualification, have gone and told the RFL how they could increase their income (not their turnover) in order to increase the amount of money they can spend on the cap, thus gain advantage over other clubs. This is despite knowing full well that, due to the costs of playing at the LSV, increasing income would be impossible. So, that’s cheating then. The outcome for Leigh is that they failed to meet the on-field criteria, but they have lost their owner and are now in a far weaker financial position.

Do you see me, or any other Widnes fan trolling other club's boards and stirring the about this?

The answer to that is [sizeNO[/size, isn’t it Starbug?

Yet you and your wife, Dick, still think that they can throw poop at this club on our own board, in a display of hard-faced and shameless hypocrisy of the highest order. You have no place having a go at my club, when you cannot even acknowledge the shortcomings of your own.

I do not care what else you may have said about Widnes, because you have now shown your true colours, and what it is you are actually all about.

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Quote: Pepe "I didn’t mind you questioning the results. I couldn’t care less what you think. It was the constant trolling on this board and demanding that all the Widnes supporters on it bow down and agree with every word you say, that vexed me and the rest of us off. You did then go onto the Halifax board and expressed your opinion vehemently, suggesting that this would disadvantage Halifax’s own bid and winding them up about it. Basically you were telling them that we could be cheating them out of a Super League licence. There is no other way to interperate what you were doing - there just isn't, because you were.

Now we have a situation where Leigh, utterly desperate to meet the on-field qualification, have gone and told the RFL how they could increase their income (not their turnover) in order to increase the amount of money they can spend on the cap, thus gain advantage over other clubs. This is despite knowing full well that, due to the costs of playing at the LSV, increasing income would be impossible. So, that’s cheating then. The outcome for Leigh is that they failed to meet the on-field criteria, but they have lost their owner and are now in a far weaker financial position.

Do you see me, or any other Widnes fan trolling other club's boards and stirring the poop about this?

The answer to that is [sizeNO[/size, isn’t it Starbug?

Yet you and your wife, Dick, still think that they can throw poop at this club on our own board, in a display of hard-faced and shameless hypocrisy of the highest order. You have no place having a go at my club, when you cannot even acknowledge the shortcomings of your own.

I do not care what else you may have said about Widnes, because you have now shown your true colours, and what it is you are actually all about.'"




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You'll be telling us next that you can get 12 months car insurance but only pay for 10

Or that if you buy the downstairs windows , you get the upstairs done for free

As I said , it's 12 months since the accounting miracle , I await with baited breath your figures for 2010

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Quote: Starbug "You'll be telling us next that you can get 12 months car insurance but only pay for 10

Or that if you buy the downstairs windows , you get the upstairs done for free

As I said , it's 12 months since the accounting miracle , I await with baited breath your figures for 2010'"


I’m not trying to tell you anything. I couldn't give a feck what you think. You just seem a little inconsistent in the way you judge Widnes compared to the much worse situation at Leigh, which you’d clearly prefer to brush under the carpet and stay in denial of.

Again, Widnes fan’s didn’t see fit to go on other boards slagging your club off for it and stirring the sh\t in order to create bitterness against your club.

I’m just not going to second guess what is going on at Widnes, in the same way you refuse to do with Leigh.

Dya Geddit now? icon_confused.gif

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Quote: Pepe "I’m not trying to tell you anything. I couldn't give a feck what you think. You just seem a little inconsistent in the way you judge Widnes compared to the much worse situation at Leigh, which you’d clearly prefer to brush under the carpet and stay in denial of.

Again, Widnes fan’s didn’t see fit to go on other boards slagging your club off for it and stirring the sh\t in order to create bitterness against your club.

I’m just not going to second guess what is going on at Widnes, in the same way you refuse to do with Leigh.

Dya Geddit now?
I'll happily discuss anything you want to about Leigh

Financially , were bolloxed

What else do you want to know ?

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Quote: Starbug "I'll happily discuss anything you want to about Leigh

Financially , were bolloxed

What else do you want to know ?'"

You're not Salary Cap cheats then?

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Quote: Pepe "You're not Salary Cap cheats then?'"


Yes we are , we've lost three points because of it

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Quote: Starbug "Yes we are , we've lost three points because of it'"

How many points have Widnes been docked latley?

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Quote: Pepe "How many points have Widnes been docked latley?'"


None because you haven't broken any rules

What are you asking me questions you already know the answers to ?

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Quote: Pepe "How many points have Widnes been docked latley?'"


Surely lots because there were "rumours" after leigh had been caught that others were in trouble, and as usual we were at the top of a lot of people's speculative lists of teams who'd cheated. In spite of people criticising us for not taking the league seriously.

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Quote: Chris Dalton "Surely lots because there were "rumours" after leigh had been caught that others were in trouble, and as usual we were at the top of a lot of people's speculative lists of teams who'd cheated. In spite of people criticising us for not taking the league seriously.'"


Not me though , I've said all along you've been very serious about competing in the Championship

Rubbish maybe , but always serious

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Quote: Starbug "None because you haven't broken any rules

What are you asking me questions you already know the answers to ?'"

Because, When I put it to you that your club were cheats, at the time you were docked, you denied it. Other Leigh fans tried to tell us all that it was all just some silly administrative mistake.

Therefore, I would suggest that, instead of hounding Widnes fans into trying to admit their club is pulling the wool over the eyes of the RFL with their accounts, you spend your time explaining to your own club's fans that Leigh are indeed cheats.

It also makes a joke of the fact that your missus has the cheek to come on here whining about us [i'rolling over' [/iagainst Fev. Perhaps you could explain to her that, if her club hadn't been docked points for trying to cheat the S/C, she wouldn't have to fecking worry what happened at the Stobart on Sunday?

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Quote: Chris Dalton "Surely lots because there were "rumours" after leigh had been caught that others were in trouble, and as usual we were at the top of a lot of people's speculative lists of teams who'd cheated. In spite of people criticising us for not taking the league seriously.'"

That's right, Chris.

Starbug wants us all to bow down to his view, based entirely on his speculation. We don't need speculation to point an accusing finger at his club. We have cast iron proof of their misdeeds.

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Quote: Pepe "Because, When I put it to you that your club were cheats, at the time you were docked, you denied it. Other Leigh fans tried to tell us all that it was all just some silly administrative mistake.

Therefore, I would suggest that, instead of hounding Widnes fans into trying to admit their club is pulling the wool over the eyes of the RFL with their accounts, you spend your time explaining to your own club's fans that Leigh are indeed cheats.

It also makes a joke of the fact that your missus has the cheek to come on here whining about us [i'rolling over' [/iagainst Fev. Perhaps you could explain to her that, if her club hadn't been docked points for trying to cheat the S/C, she wouldn't have to fecking worry what happened at the Stobart on Sunday?'"


The Leigh salary cap infringement was a clerical error , but still an error , so punishable , similar to incorrect filling in of registration documents or turning up with the wrong colour kit

I never suggested any cheating done by Widnes , my amusement was with the fans for believing how the turnover and profit figures had been achieved

What the miss us does is her own concern , I stopped telling her what to do years ago , what she knows about RLcould be written on the back of a postage stamp

So what else do you want to know about Leigh ?

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What legitimate factical reason should we have not to believe are accounts from last year?

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