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Quote: Starbug "Allen isn't even Championship 1 standard , let alone SL , and the fact that one or all of your coaching staff rate him good enough tells you exactly the problem you have'"


Starry that's poor even by your troll standards.

He's well off the boil at the moment but he went well early on when coming off the bench I thought.

He is O'Connors old car share partner to Wigan though which makes me believe he's safe regardless. Similar for Finnigan too.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Pepe "You're loving this, aren't you?

It's like a loving wet dream to you.

Look, the licence process is almost as poop as the w@ankers coaching our team. Nearly all of us feel this way here, so you are preaching to the wise. try the VT, you might get a bite there.'"


I won't say it isn't amusing , are you suggesting our ' demise ' in 2009 wasn't the same for yourselves ? , but just as yourself , I find this particular action , absolutely crazy , if you get a couple of injuries you could be in real trouble , yes bollok them , drop them , make them play in the reserves for a couple of weeks , but publicly humiliate and release them , just crazy

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: widneslardboy "Starry that's poor even by your troll standards.

He's well off the boil at the moment but he went well early on when coming off the bench I thought.

He is O'Connors old car share partner to Wigan though which makes me believe he's safe regardless. Similar for Finnigan too.'"


He's a football player masquerading as a RL player , it was commented on how he was your top tackler against us , that's because he is your main ' spot ' player , he is targeted every time we play against him

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Quote: Starbug "He has always been poor , even when he was up at Barrow , he has no ' Heart ' ,'"


No way... you're thinking of a different player. He was class for us before he was made el capitan...On his day he's one of the better back rowers in this division.

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: Starbug "I won't say it isn't amusing , are you suggesting our ' demise ' in 2009 wasn't the same for yourselves ? , but just as yourself , I find this particular action , absolutely crazy , if you get a couple of injuries you could be in real trouble , yes bollok them , drop them , make them play in the reserves for a couple of weeks , but publicly humiliate and release them , just crazy'"

Not really, I didn't want to see Leigh go down.

What our coaching staff are doing, is simply trying to save their own skins by trying to defect the blame from them and on to the players - four players in particular. Four players that wern't even the worst on show. Madness to us, saving their jobs for them.

This is a bit more than just about Widnes, for you though. You’re here having a go at the licence system and hoping that you can get someone to defend it so you can say that we are all changing and favouring it because it seems to be favouring us. Well, this isn’t the case.

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WHAT THE MOTHERTRUCKING MOTHERTRUCKER!!!! ive only just clocked that, so they have actually been 'released' then? rather than just told they wont be offered new contracts? WTF!!!!! THATS EVEN MORE INSANE! HOW TO COMPLETELY FUCK UP A SEASON, SQUAD AND ITS MORALE IN ONE FELL SWOOP: BY DENNIS BETTS!!!!!!

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: vikingsmurf "WHAT THE MOTHERTRUCKING MOTHERTRUCKER!!!! ive only just clocked that, so they have actually been 'released' then? rather than just told they wont be offered new contracts? WTF!!!!! THATS EVEN MORE INSANE! HOW TO COMPLETELY love UP A SEASON, SQUAD AND ITS MORALE IN ONE FELL SWOOP
I’m not sure this is entirely about Denis Betts. We’ve been here before with Webster and Ford (again), last season. Paul Cullen was in charge then. Coincidence?

I think not icon_confused.gif

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its time for a revolution. free your mind steve Oconnor.

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Quote: Chris B "A very good player in a decent Barrow side and one player they were disappointed to lose. He has shown glimpses of his ability but this side is being poorly coached and his performances have suffered as a result.

Still you judge him all you want on two very poor team performances.'"


If I remember correctly in the days leading up to us signing him, Barrow were under the impression that they were re-signing him and Des Johnson called him the best player in the Championship. Admittedly he is not playing well at the moment, but not many are. From watching us recently, you would say that Gardner, Ropati, Tyrer, Leuluai and Allen all can't tackle and that Thackeray, Ropati, Pickersgill, Netherton and Allen are all useless in general - but it doesn't necessarily mean they are bad players. There seems to be a bit of a cloud over the club at the minute and not a very good environment to work in. Are they bad players, poorly coached, worried about not getting a contract next year so they are not bothered? unless you are a player at the club, its very difficult to pinpoint exactly why seeming good players are playing badly.

If there has been trouble behind the scenes with players attitude called into question or bust ups, I think you've got to back the club over the player(s). If the club think that they are weeding out the bad apples, there must be a reason for it. I honestly don't think TO'C, Betts or PC have just bascially picked on 4 players just to cover their own backs. I guess it remains to be seen, however if their actions have a positive effect, or just alienate the players and fans further. Seems a bit of a last roll of the dice move and if the club have got it wrong, obviously things are only going to get worse. Things were always going to be very difficult on Thursday and Monday, so I am at least going to stay undecided about this until the players have been back out on the pitch.

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Allen is a class player and I'd have him back at Barrow in a playing capacity tomorrow. However, he shook hands on a new contract at Barrow at the end of 2009 and then welched on the deal, so few Barrow fans respect him as a bloke. Not sure he's good enough for SL though.

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None of these players are super league standard, there are better players in this division, couldn't understand the trouble the club went to last season to keep thackeray. We have the franchise so now the club is making preparations for super league. hopefully recruitment will be better than in recent seasons.

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The thing that gets me the most is i strongly think that without Thackeray's performance against fax in the Semi final, we wouldn't be heading for SL. I mean its not like last year we never tried to win anything. didn't do brilliantly in the league but when have we ever?? and we made the NRC final.

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Quote: SRC "Allen is a class player and I'd have him back at Barrow in a playing capacity tomorrow. However, he shook hands on a new contract at Barrow at the end of 2009 and then welched on the deal, so few Barrow fans respect him as a bloke. Not sure he's good enough for SL though.'"


I know where you are coming from mate... very frustrating indeed, but you can't blame a lad for doing a u-turn if they are in a position to do so if it means only having to travel 10 minutes to work instead of 2hrs

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Quote: Blackandwhiteviking "None of these players are super league standard, there are better players in this division, couldn't understand the trouble the club went to last season to keep thackeray. We have the franchise so now the club is making preparations for super league. hopefully recruitment will be better than in recent seasons.'"


Spot on mate we are aiming for more quality in our squad, if the whingers thought that the sun shone out of thackerys backside just think that we will have have a new playmaker who can pass and kick.

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Quote: Bam Bam "Spot on mate we are aiming for more quality in our squad, if the whingers thought that the sun shone out of thackerys backside just think that we will have have a new playmaker who can pass and kick.'"


Pray tell? Who is this then?

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