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Why whenever faxfan20111 gets involved dies every thread go downhill? He's an idiot who can't differentiate between banter and general discussion... Should be on the Leigh board icon_lol.gif

Seriously though every thread he gets involved turns to a daft slanging match despite starting off well!

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Quote: Pepe "How many Premiership Finals have Halifax won? Widnes 6
The premiership trophy is a minor trophy up until it became Super League Playoffs when League champions became minor. The only trophies that mean anything in Rugby League are League Champions (Now Grand Final), Challenge Cup and World Club Champions. So yeah you won a few of those premierships, but they are just side shows to the main events. You didn't get a shot at the world club championship because of a premiership win did you? Halifax couldn't take part in a World Club Championship because it came the season after our Championship win.

My reply was to OFFTHECUFF who says Widnes has a richer history then Halifax. However Halifax are one of the founders of our great game, Widnes weren't even around. Halifax were winning trophies long before Widnes, including the double. Widnes won the majority of their trophies between 1974-1990 (8 major and just 3 before that). That is a rich period, not a rich history. What happened the rest of the time? Plus like Halifax you haven't lifted a major trophy for over 20 years. I never said Halifax were better I said they had similar records, you just got your knickers in a twist.

So live in the past if you wish, that's your choice. I was just being realistic.

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Quote: Faxfan20111 "I would be an idiot if I disagreed... which I dont. Well i do disagree with one thing, better squad?
The only way Fax will get in before us is if they add the following to the criteria:

Cheating by fielding an ineligible player.
Getting kicked out of a major cup competition.
Having a stand that is sinking.
Having a coach who has multiple convictions.

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Quote: billyfax "I think you'll find we were established in 1873 while you were established in 1895. So actually you're wrong yet again! Your team had one really good year and good on them but you've lived off that for the last 21 years.

Halifax have more League Championships then you at 5 to your 3, but you've won more challenge Cups 7 to 4. Although Halifax have won the double, something you haven't done. So neither team really has a richer history then the other, Halifax is just older.

I hope Widnes do get into Super League, I'm sure they will do well. At the same time I also hope Halifax get in as they too can add to our great game.'"


www.widnesvikings.co.uk/page.php?id=637

I think that you might want to research your facts a little more. The sporting club that gave birth to Widnes RLFC was in existance in 1871 - 2 years before Halifax, so arguably Fax weren't even about then and as such Widnes are an arguably older club. And for your info, Widnes were a founder member of the Northern Union in 1895 - i.e. Rugby League - precisely the same time as Fax.

HTH
Quote: billyfax "I think you'll find we were established in 1873 while you were established in 1895. So actually you're wrong yet again! Your team had one really good year and good on them but you've lived off that for the last 21 years.

Halifax have more League Championships then you at 5 to your 3, but you've won more challenge Cups 7 to 4. Although Halifax have won the double, something you haven't done. So neither team really has a richer history then the other, Halifax is just older.

I hope Widnes do get into Super League, I'm sure they will do well. At the same time I also hope Halifax get in as they too can add to our great game.'"


www.widnesvikings.co.uk/page.php?id=637

I think that you might want to research your facts a little more. The sporting club that gave birth to Widnes RLFC was in existance in 1871 - 2 years before Halifax, so arguably Fax weren't even about then and as such Widnes are an arguably older club. And for your info, Widnes were a founder member of the Northern Union in 1895 - i.e. Rugby League - precisely the same time as Fax.

HTH


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Quote: Redchemic "www.widnesvikings.co.uk/page.php?id

My mistake, however your cricket club didn't start playing rugby until 1875. Two years after Halifax. However I stand corrected on the first point. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: billyfax "The premiership trophy is a minor trophy up until it became Super League Playoffs when League champions became minor. The only trophies that mean anything in Rugby League are League Champions (Now Grand Final), Challenge Cup and World Club Champions. So yeah you won a few of those premierships, but they are just side shows to the main events. You didn't get a shot at the world club championship because of a premiership win did you? Halifax couldn't take part in a World Club Championship because it came the season after our Championship win.

My reply was to OFFTHECUFF who says Widnes has a richer history then Halifax. However Halifax are one of the founders of our great game, Widnes weren't even around. Halifax were winning trophies long before Widnes, including the double. Widnes won the majority of their trophies between 1974-1990 (8 major and just 3 before that). That is a rich period, not a rich history. What happened the rest of the time? Plus like Halifax you haven't lifted a major trophy for over 20 years. I never said Halifax were better I said they had similar records, you just got your knickers in a twist.

So live in the past if you wish, that's your choice. I was just being realistic.'"

The important trophies are the ones your team have one. The unimportant trophies are the ones that you didn’t win.

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Quote: billyfax "I think you'll find we were established in 1873 while you were established in 1895. So actually you're wrong yet again! Your team had one really good year and good on them but you've lived off that for the last 21 years.

Halifax have more League Championships then you at 5 to your 3, but you've won more challenge Cups 7 to 4. Although Halifax have won the double, something you haven't done. So neither team really has a richer history then the other, Halifax is just older.

I hope Widnes do get into Super League, I'm sure they will do well. At the same time I also hope Halifax get in as they too can add to our great game.'"

Well swinton have won the league 6 times so they must be a bigger club than fax.You won the league 1903,1907 and 1965 when rugby was not as big.Overall widnes have won more ad I have researched.The premiers and regal was worthwhile.Anyway admit my dad is better than yours. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Faxfan20111 "I'll p**s myself if you don't get in.

Never seen a cockier bunch of fans in my life!'"

Well looking at the thread I say fax are the cocky ones and wonder why they are my most disliked team.Win grand final and deserve a licence.Well I be laughing come end of march.

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Calm down folks, one silly Halifax troll and your all letting the blood boil.

Up the Vikings!

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In 3 years time these poor Halifax trolls will be having the same kind of discussions with other lesser teams, as we lord it up at the top table.

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It was predicted by all and sundry on here that all this backbiting and bitching would occur. The situation has not been created by Widnes, Fax, Crusaders or any other club - we all know who has created the situation but remember by bitching back we're like organised fighting dogs. We're put in a situation created by someone else and squabbling over something that isn't really our own argument.
The club that gets in will simply be the ones who have adapted best to somebody elses rules - sadly they don't have to be the best on the pitch where there would be no arguing. It appears at the minute we have adapted better than most, possibly all and rumours and inside info have it that we're certs.

We've been bitten before but I am confident we have the best offer on the table for this round of licences. Fax are a good club and have most things in place - more than some current SL clubs and if things were as I believe they should be we would both be in SL now, never mind next season or in 3 years time.

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Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "Calm down folks, one silly Halifax troll and your all letting the blood boil.

Up the Vikings!'"


I agree as all this franchise mullarkey annoys me.Think i will go away until after the decision has been made.Come on the Vikings we are the biggest club in the Championship. k020.gif

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Derek Acorah says . . . . .


Voodoo !!!!!!!!!!!

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Whilst I agree that Widnes fans have no right to claim that they have any more history than Halifax – to do so just shows a lack of knowledge of RL history itself - but we have been more successful and the difference simply does not come down to ‘one good year’.

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Quote: rufustanner "The only way Fax will get in before us is if they add the following to the criteria

Don't forget the [i'Setting toilets alight'[/i criteria! icon_wink.gif

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