What I was saying was the only time fans of other clubs generally come across Widnes is on a franchising/licensing thread. These often descend into arguments between those that think Widnes should get a license and those that don't.

The bit in bold is the reason why it happens so often. Too often people come up with the simplistic argument that Widnes shouldn't get a spot because we have finished 5th and the winners should go up. This then leads to Widnes fans (and others) putting them straight because it's a nonsense argument. Whether you support P&R or not, we haven't had P&R in place so you can't criticise Widnes for playing the game.

The bit in bold is the reason it rankles most. The cap is lowered so that teams can compete with Widnes and create the fantastically competitive league that we have now. Yet the fact that Widnes cannot dominate the league under this cap for some reason makes people think that we shouldn't go up at the expense of other clubs that score much poorer everywhere else.

Widnes fans aren't arrogant in the slightest, or no more so than any other clubs. However when your constantly defending yourselves against stupid claims like those, it could easily appear arrogant. If there were no stupid claims there would be no 'arrogance.'

there there, of course it is

I may be wrong here but didn't Widnes post £1 million loss last year? So with their "£1 million profit" this year would cancel out last years losses. I think you will find the cap was lowered to support clubs in general NOT to ALLOW them to keep up with a club that until this year (accounts still to be posted) has just come out of administration and seemingly posted profits.
As I said I may be wrong.....

I didnt say that administration did have a bareing on the cap. What I said was you came out in 2007. It doesnt matter where the money is spent for the books its the fact is was spent and posted as a loss (has to come from somewhere). I don't want to get into this side of it as I dont know your accounts other than what I have read on the forum.

The point I was making is that the cap did not come in to rein Widnes back it was brought in to stop clubs overspending and going into administration. No team can use the salary cap as an excuse for their performance as we ALL work to the same capping system which is audited by the RFL.

Toulouse CANNOT APPLY so they can't get the nod unlucky!!!!!!! next.

Yes they can , but they cannot get ' your ' spot

This is really running on. All I can say is that if/when you get in is Good Luck.
I'm sure that you'll need a lot as it'll still appear an uneven playing field but if you make a good shout of it it may open the door for next time for other clubs.