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| Quote: wirethunder "Given the quality in the Widnes squad,or rather lack of,i seriously doubt whether a world class coach could do any better than Denis with this hapless set of players.
Widnes fans had unrealistic ideas about what they were going to do this season.
This is Super League. You were destined to finish bottom with such a weak team. It's silly that 'Vikings' fans thought things would be any different to what's currently happening.'"
He did in the Championship and has no decent track record of coaching.By the way a Top Coach gets the best out of average players and he can not do that even.We had full salary cap in the Championship and did badly and also been out of the game 6 years.May aswell put you as coach as there is no game plan or tactics.His comments are also not inspirational.
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| Top coaches also attract better players.If was that good at Union defence coach Gloucester would have kept him.
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| two words............
Brian Noble
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| its the first time on here that i've heard a coach try to blame a defeat on losing the toss. i thought that was cricket.
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| Quote: Latchford Locks "two words............
Brian Noble'"
When Wigan couldn't find a win for toffee in 2006 & relegation looked a certainty, Noble took over and we stayed up with some convincing wins and even pushed for the play offs. Admittedly we broke the spirit of the cap to sign Michael Dobson and Stuart Fielden, but ultimately he lifted morale and addressed some immediate issues to turnaround the fortunes of the club.
He then took over a Crusaders side that had just quickly drafted a team together, were thrown in the deep end (exactly like yourselves) and many tipped them to come bottom, but Nobby got them to the play offs.
Brian Noble is a man that couldn't take Wigan to the next level (champions), but he saved us from relegation and took us as far as he could - a play off team. He took a bunch of Aussies at Crusaders and got them to the play offs. He's the perfect coach for the scenario you find yourselves in.
I remember when Denis Betts was at Wigan and I never had confidence in him. Admittedly, the regime at the time were never going to give him much chance, but Kris Radlinski said in his autobiography that Denis could never really put himself across as an authoritative figure as a coach. He's very inexperienced and in the situation you find yourselves in you definitely need an experienced coach! Steve O'Connor has worked wonders at your club, but I feel he made a mistake in going for Denis Betts. I don't say that with the benefit of hindsight, I thought it at the time.
Your board must act NOW. The novelty of Super League will soon wear off with fickle supporters if their team keep getting thumped every week. Betts out and Noble in - it will change your season IMO.
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| Cadoo I great post and just done a poll on the Widnes site on who should be coach.Yes some players are not good enough but a quality coach will attract players in season 2 and 3.A top coach will get them organised and well drilled even if get beat.
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| Totally agree off the cuff , this was the guy who I over heard many years ago that Happy Frank Endacott is the worst coach he's ever had oh well say no more
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| Ive said it before get betts gone, bring cullen down from his office at least he hasvthe experience and he cab attract the top players
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| Easiest poll to date.
It's time to stop pretending SL and start playing it!
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| Well said j20 to totally true
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| Can anyone confirm that Betts said that we (HKR) were lucky to win on BBC radio?
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Can anyone confirm that Betts said that we (HKR) were lucky to win on BBC radio?'"
Wouldn't me surprise if he did.
I'm usually a positive optimistic person and give players coaches the benefit of the doubt. But yesterdays performance and post match comments are inexcusable. I don't think I've had a more miserable experience watching Widnes. We were dreadful, just dreadful.
Hull KR played in the same conditions, scored 36 points and didn't concede a point. Too cold? Fuck off Betts.
He has to go as simple as.
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| Kite and Phelps and the loanee from Warry will make a difference, but seeing how recruitment is on-going it is also unsettling for the players. The team looks along way off gelling as a unit, I could see no difference in your first match against Wakefield than against us yesterday - if anything you seemed to have gone backwards.
I think you still need to give Betts a chance but maybe he needs a Director of Rugby to support him. . .Brian Noble is only a phone call away.
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