Not as quiet as game at odsal yet though.

So how do you define a "top quality" import? Or is it just that if they play for Widnes they'll automatically be a "top quality import"

The fact is, if Widnes want to compete in SL then they'll use the same quota rules as everyone else including all the loop holes to allow them to put together a competitive squad. You may delude yourself into thinking you're not going to do that, but all that will mean is that you'll just be whipping boys.

Whipping boys like Huddersfield Saints and Wigan.

It's not all about filling your side with imports is it? It's about having a good balance of youth and experience. I've no doubt it will be tough but the point being made here is super league and licensing was set up to prevent teams from filling their sides with overrated antopideans and it hasn't yet worked.



Suddenly? you've not been coming on here long have you? Fact is, Bradford are not a team we will be emulating. You're on a downward spiral. You've got an offer on for dirt cheap season tickets and what are you giving all these fans? A boring, under achieving squad and one of the worst match day experiences in super league. Enjoy comrade. Enjoy!

Woah slow down there my little chemical friends. Yer can't be laying the boot into SL clubs before you even get there !

Funny how they think they'll be great as soon as they come up. Your only decent youngster is Jack Owens. Where is allhis other youth?? Every SL team has a few decent youngsters, some more than others, yet you try to be offhand with Bradford who bring in more youth than the majority of clubs? Mate if you (as Widnes) don't use your full quota, you WILL finish bottom, wel maybe above Crusaders and Quins. Maybe.

Okay then.

Out of the current list of first team squad members we have...

Paddy Flynn
Danny Hulme
Danny Craven
Shane Grady
Anthony Mullally [who just so happens to be decent enough to be on loan with Brisbane Broncos]
Jack Owens
Dave Houghton
Grant Gore
Chris Lunt

possibly more

Who have all featured at some point in our team this season. Thats 9 players who are all under the age of 22, in fact most are under the age of 20. I'd say they're pretty decent enough. You probably only know of Owens due to the Barrow game. So unless you've actually taken the time out to make the trip down to Widnes to watch our academy sides play, no he is not our "only decent youngster".

I'll also draw your attention to Saturday 2nd April 2011 when our "not so decent" youth beat yours 34-16. Not bad for a second tier youth set up with only one decent player?

Which is exactly what's wrong with our game right now, even just having that view point.

The point I was trying to get across is that yes you do bring a good amount of youngsters through BUT still feel the need to use up full quota's etc. That is a worry for the game as a whole.

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No of course not. We don't play in a slum for starters.

We will fill all 5 quota places and will have another 1 or 2 players who are here on residency rules. It's about establishing a foothold in SL and playing to the rules. Anything less puts you at a disadvantage.

The Vicar

Slander? Get a grip, this isn't Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney.

And I repeat. We will not be emulating you. I went to Bradford when we were in super league, a few times. You had everything on the pitch. Sure, it was highly reliant on imports, but what a team! Yet everything from the view to the crumbling terraces to the stands whereby your guest fans were open to the elements (and soaked) whilst only home fans seemed to be huddled under the covers made Bradford one of the most lamentable match day experiences in the whole league. Except when you were at Valley Parade, and I saw football stewards chucking fans down steps for daring to stand up at the seats.

Now, bring up the past all you want, but we're talking about the here and now. We're a team who is coming up, fresh, and we wont be emulating the dulls, because in the hear and now, you're rubbish in so many areas. You had it all and instead of investing in infrastructure and the future you didn't and so for years now you've been progressively getting worse. Worse on the pitch, lower attendences. You're so far out of the big four now it wont be long before you're thrown into the licensing demotion mire. You went all out this season by throwing season tickets at people, and what did you give them? Do you think they will be aching to buy them back at full price?

As for respecting "elders" get stuffed. You've had the fortune of being in the right place at the right time, you are no better (NO better) than us, Leigh, Fax, or that team you ripped off (Keighley). I hope widnes respect no one but the sport, same as every team out there. Any talk of "elders" is beyond ridiculous, this is a messageboard and you are a fan, not some cowl wearing crook carrying wise man. I'll respect you when you do something worthwhile, not before.

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What are you JBT some snot nosed up your own teenager? What a fool.