After all the banter - for those making the trip over tonight:

Have a safe trip and look forward to (hopefully) a cracking game!

For those with kids coming over - we have dancers (not for adults) and fire breathers for entertainment tonight.

I think this will be a likely possability however Thackary has really tried to prove himself when hes come off the bench. Been my motm in the last couple of games.

Not sure you will get too much by way of an agreement with that last statement. To be fair... the way we have played in the last couple of games is probably some way off the way that we have been preparing to play all through the off season and maybe he is struggling with coming to terms with that a little.

My actual thoughts on the matter are that he is just a little slow at thinking things through and gets caught before he can act... there is no doubting that he can be quality and he has real pace (I think his try last week was excellent), but maybe he needs to be a little more decisive with the ball in hand.

I'd agree there, we became noticeably dis-jointed in attack when he came on.. He he's shown how dangerous he can be he just needs to focus better and think quicker with the ball in hand.

Can't fault his enthusiasm though, that stuff cannot be coached.

Doran needs to calm down

from what was a superb game the ref has now decided the out come with a wrong decision, it was a knock on you CLOWN!!

ahh well at least we injured a few and still top of the league

I`m not too disappointed with tonight but we had a nightmare first 20 mins.

Errors errors errors.

Looked flat at times but I`d put that down to the conditions and could not play our free flowing game.

Top defence from Fax and great counter attacking well done

Little too keen at times but Smithy sorted him out when the ref mentioned it to him in the second.

I thought a yellow was going to get produced

10 out of 10 for both our 2nd half effort and Fax's defence

Even with all my optimism I expected that we would get beat tonight. We are missing a few that could have made the difference. Never really started well, and when we did start it was far too late.

A bonus point will do at this stage and as someone has already stated at least were still top of the league.

Oh... and hats off to the t0ss pot that mouthed off face-to-face at John Duffy at the end of the match. Widnes is proud of you

Just got back now. Both teams will get better but I think we can improve a lot more...
Considering fax were full strength and are a settled side I thought we did okay. Both sides bombed chances but I think we definately contrived to lose the game.
A couple more games and I think we'll be playing to our potential.

Matt James (Out)
Jon Goddard (Out)
James Haley (Out)

We had our 2 first choice centres and possibnle best prop out.

Goddard and Haley injured the two main Centres. Roberts is a backrower but played in the Centre role. Said, Roberts, Cherryholme, Worrincy, James and Beswick all new this year so not that settled and Govin is a new 6 for us as well. Both teams will improve heaps but both sides will know Barrow, Leigh and Fev amongst others are capable of beating Fax and Widnes if they slacken off at all.