The kick Sky showed after the highlights looked like the right one because he seemed to slip after he kicked it.

Here HERE well said

The clip Sky showed was from the Dean try, and it was just wide.
Was that not the contentious one?

the one I saw on sky was from the ahvan length of the field try.

The contentious one was where Hanbury slipped and it was from Dean's score IIRC. The only video of the conversion attempt is from the North stand and doesn't zoom very well so I'd be surprised that you can be so sure.

A saints fan I know in work was sat in block C in the Saints end (West Stand) right behind the sticks and even he admitted that the ball was just inside the right stick (left as he was looking at it.) Also an interesting opinion from someone stood directly below the kick.

Paul Wellens ‏@pwello80 8 Jul
“@danprendyYES... I thought it did

I'll leave it at that.

Losing because of a refereeing error is never easy, but at the end of the day big boys dont cry, if we want respect from other clubs and their supporters lets just take it on the chin and get on with it. No good being seen as whingers.

The ghost goal was the one where Hanbury slipped. I've watched it numerous times but it's impossible to tell from the official footage in the North Stand. Betts said the club video showed it to go over though, I assume that was filmed in the South.

Mate every set of fans whinge i have been on these forums long enough.Big boys Saints,Wigan,Warrington, etc moan just like any other club to be honest.It is part of the forums and we have lost, and time to move on from the experience.We are improving and that is more important to me, than this lost.

Ive just watched The Super League show,and I freeze framed the disputed goal.
I can say most definately that it was a good conversion.
I froze it ,and its quite clear that the post is behind the ball !!!!
Its not as if the ball was high above the sticks---it was about six feet below the top of the sticks.
It looks like the touch judge on the left had made his mind up early that it was a miss,and the other judge instinctively wave his flag as well..

No-one is particularly moaning still but it is a debating point. It's more annoying as refs decisions can be based on interpretation this should be clear cut! The club haven't moaned about it at all either.

Not to mention the fact that in sport it's usually the big boys that cry most

Not to mention the fact that in sport it's usually the big boys that cry most

Agreed mate usually the highly paid premiership footballers.

I dont think Ive ever known a decision to be reversed because of fan pressure, I might be wrong tho.

Come on guys, of course I wasn't serious about lobbying the RFL. I did however send a 'slightly' abusive e mail highlighting my disgust, not that it will make a bit of difference but it did make me feel better and on the subject of moaning, I've never seen as much moaning or arm flapping in the refs face as I did from wellens and hohaia on Sunday, if ganson was in charge one of them would have walked.
Never mind, us Vikings will just enjoy the view from up here on the moral high ground.
Its just above the sticks, perfect for judging goal kicks

That is the spirit mate.We are not all that bad at Widnes and i like to see my team win though. But on the whole i am satisfied if lose with a good performance and effort.