I've nothing to hide, it's not half as bad as what else has been written and far less offensive than his reply...



And in response to him i also wrote..



Funny how you've conveniently not mentioned that one..

We don't need two threads on this.

Isnt it weird that Loz is the only chap we can communicate with from the club he's honest and i like that and he does sound like he wears his heart on his sleeve so i to take my comment back. It would be better if we could get him on a full time contract as im sure it was mentioned earlier in the season that once his work commitments finished he could join us FT?

That's a hell of a turnaround there VM.

To be honest, I still think Wildbore could end up being a fans favourite. He wouldn't have won the awards he did last year if he was no good. It appears he's took the brunt of the fans frustration because he was the one who decided to make his own frustrations public and disrespect the name of the club. One of the worst things a player can do is say they don't want to wear the shirt anymore - even though it appears he has now retracted that statement.

No player is in sparkling form and no doubt if things don't improve a few more negative things will be said about players. However, IMO Loz hasn't been that bad and the only things I can remember seeing about Loz was that a few weeks ago people said he was selfish with the ball - hardly abuse. Providing Widnes can turn it round then I'm sure Loz will be amongst our strongest performers.

Loz we love you mate and are sorry for our comments, we look forward to you and the lads kicking some cumbrian ass on Thursday.

Fair enough, I'll take back what I said about him earlier in the thread. (But it's a £50 fine for looking at the messageboards!)

There was a post on TIW about the forum being a bad thing. I agree to some extent that it is but we as Widnes fans are spoilt with the success we've had and the legacy of 1989 and the expectations of the fans is one of if not [ithe[/i most in British RL.

I'm not a fan of this "Sky Sports Era" as I like to call it, [ieveryone[/i is a pundit, [ieveryone[/i is an analyst, [ieveryone[/i picks the team, [ieveryone[/i has a say in how the club should be run whereas 10-15 years ago it was a few blokes in the pub having a craic. Now the impact of people' opninions - good, bad or ugly has far greater consequences than it did 10 years ago.

The day we got the knock back from SL has ripped the heart out of the club.

We have been unable to pick up all the pieces.


Plenty of effort from clubs in this league has made it tough and fingers crossed we will re build soon

Lets hope our patiance does not get too tested

Some of the stick the players have received this season at the games you'd think we were world champions two years ago not twenty. We should refrain from the abuse and that includes Lee Doran as long as he stops tackling like a puff and stops the great penalty giveaway.

It’s all a tad pathetic really! Loz has signed for the biggest club in this league! (No disrespect to Fax as they prob the best club!) so he can’t expect to walk straight into the side yet if he works hard he’ll get the game time and he has been in the 17 every time available!

If he is only part time on little money why not sign for Cas? I bet he’s on more than you think! And once a week? Rochdale train more than that!

I was happy with his signing and he has put in good performances but so far his ‘hot head’ has been a liability for us… fact! Same as Doran, good player to many penalties and until he / the team starts running in / creating tries for fun the penalties will be what get noted!

What he did on facebook was daft, but you can understand maybe frustration but then what fan’s write on messgaeboards is only the same? Players friend s & family should really stay off messageboards as they are never gonna like them and will often pick out only bad comments and bread negativity! Why go on? Just to fill your ego if fan’s love you, but moan if they don’t? Messageboards are only there for people to moan tbh, hardly anyone bother to go on just to praise people, whereas people like to get a whinge out of there system!

I suggest Loz put’s the effort in plays wherever PC tell’s him too as he’s a Widnes player and turns opinions around with good professional performances rather than blaming fan’s and looking for support! The team are playing poor this year and on whole the fans are still behind them but you can hardly blame voices of discontent the way the lads have been performing can you?

Widnes fans are very fickle unfortunately and they will turn once performances do!

That post is ridiculous, I read the forums because I am a rugby league fan. I am also interested in peoples opinions of the games and seeing if people have the same opinion. Friends and family do not see something completely different, we all watch the same game even if not Widnes through and through.

even if Loz has apologized on facebook everyone knows that he wants out of widnes and is not happy as is webber.
wudn't be surprised if he has left soon

I meant a few people do, usually a minority but depending on where you go!

Not usually on site's such as this I must admit (why I quite enjoy it) but on the 'club boards' such as TIW people only seem to go on to moan about somethin! Be it players, staff, fans etc etc...

Yes friends and family do see the same gain but will obvioulsy be blinkered by there relative, mates as fan's can be with there more favoured players! Some people get quite offensive on boards and are idiots and why players & close one's should stay clear!