just to change tack slightly and take an anallergy that soc is familiar with, stobarts have the best looking fleet of trucks in the haulage business, they portray an image of being ultra professional and invest massively in their infrastructures. their drivers are amongst the worst paid

Betts is bullet proof.He was in RU for years and landed the Widnes job in the Championship were his mediocrity was rewarded with a SL contract.Now 13 games in with an atrocious points against record he is being defended to the hilt by his Chairman who threatens to walk if critics try to bully the coach out despite 17 games on the bounce conceding 30 plus.Talk about landing on your feet.The club then have the cheek to express disappointment at the lack of home support just because the non die hards make sensible money decisions by not attending and paying to see dross.Ironic how they talk about time and patience when it comes to the coach and team but don't seem to have much time or patience themselves when it comes to crowd numbers at the stobart.Err,It's a three year plan isn't it?Support needs to be built up gradually and patiently.Or does patience only apply when the club wants it to.

well GSF it took a good man like youreslf to represent the supporters at this meeting think if i had attended the meeting i would have totally Blown up listening to all that total Bull and escorted out the back entrance !

Epic fail yesterday Denis. Time to draft the letter that begins.

Dear Mr O'Connor,
Firstly let me thank you for the wonderful opportunity and ongoing support you have given me, however after due consideration in light of recent performances......[ [ithe rest writes itself[/i ]

and yet our board is exactly the same as yours. No-one seems to be happy at the bottom at the moment.
For Wakefield and Widnes it is going to be a long road. Keep the faith guys.

Wakey are, at least, competitive. We are uncompetitive and the club is falling apart at the seams. Steve O'Connor fiddles while Widnes burns.

It's sad but true but, with this current coaching set up and very average players we will only get worse this season. SOC is in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks we will get 7000 VSH members. The only way this will happen is if he sacks these clowns now, gets a decent coach in and a big name half decent Half Back & Forward in who will help turn these dire performances around. At least if we can compete for 80 mins in every game it will be a step forward! At this rate, and with the current economic climate, he will be lucky if there are 2000 VSH members next season!!!

Got to face up the reality that Betts & Cullen probably wont be going anywhere, at least for the remainder of the season.

That's seems to be the case, Paddy. It will be ing disastrous for next season though, and there goes our stay in Super League for good.

People said that in 2007 when you went bust. Don't sweat it - the RFL aren't interested in results. It's security and the size of the Chairmans wallet that counts.

If this is all we continue to offer in Super League, I'm not sure we deserve to stay here. I've been arguing for years that Widnes deserve another shot at Super League and it's starting to look like I may have been wrong.

I think SOC has shown the licence system up for the utter farce it is. Only under the current system could Denis Betts get, and keep, a job as a Super League coach, after an abysmal season in the Championship too?

Let's roll forward to August. Crap season in the bin. SOC announces 7 gobsmacking signings for 2013 along with Wayne Bennett as coach. Now who's downbeat?

It's all fixable very quickly and memories will become short in the face of a Man City style shopping spree. And please - don't throw the salary cap at me - it's a sham.

I live in hope!

We all knew this season was going to be tough. But the team has massively underperformed. Its hard to see where any win will come from. The Saints cup game gave me some hope with a bit of grit and determination shown. Unfortunately the collapse and embarressment of the 62-0 drubbing a few days later brought me back down to earth with a bump! With all the time preparing and training for the Castleford game I thought we'd at least run them close. But again another lacklustre performance. I really hope there is a master plan to recruit quality and have a half decent team in place for next season...

Aint gonna happen Rich.The club don't do big signings to get bums on seats.They seem to prefer mediocre signings and still expect bums on seats.I think the term is having your cake and eating it.Oh sure there will be talk of Benji Marshall,Rob Burrow,Rangi Chase,Jon Thurston etc.Who we end up with though,because those players turned us down,will be Matty Smith or Danny Orr.

I've been saying this for a while now... but for the first time I actually doubt our chairman's willingness to go anywhere near a strategy like this.