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Quote: richardviking "We've got to release John Kite.'"


Tbh will depend what he's like in training and what progress they see got him.

He's had a shocking time with injuries before us and got a little one at a bad time here. We are unlikely to see if he's worth it this year on field BUT what be a shame if we got him right then saw his potential realised elsewhere.

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Quote: Viking Warrior "brett kearny from bradford is the latest off the press rumour......'"


Cracking player but be big money in arguably our strongest position.

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Quote: J20 "Cracking player but be big money in arguably our strongest position.'"

Phelps back to centre and him and Briscoe fight it out.Depends also how much game time we get from Briscoe too.

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Phelps back to centre and him and Briscoe fight it out.Depends also how much game time we get from Briscoe too.'"


Aye problem is a fully fit Briscoe and what do you do? Kearney can play 6 but you have Kevin Brown so probable 3 best players fitting in to 2 slots.

Personally my target would be a centre using Phelps when Briscoe out who in his own right is a very good SL Full back. Then allow Isa / Marsh / Dean to fight for other spot whilst also being wing options (Dean back row too).

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Quote: J20 "Aye problem is a fully fit Briscoe and what do you do? Kearney can play 6 but you have Kevin Brown so probable 3 best players fitting in to 2 slots.

Personally my target would be a centre using Phelps when Briscoe out who in his own right is a very good SL Full back. Then allow Isa / Marsh / Dean to fight for other spot whilst also being wing options (Dean back row too).'"

All options though mate and competition for places will make us stronger as a team.We all know injuries occur and a good squad is required.Marsh has not signed yet, but maybe soon. icon_wink.gif Depends on Kearneys demands and for me we need a proper 7, as i still cant figure out Hanburys best postion.I like Hanbury but seems a player with great pace over 30 meters, like Johnny Davies at his peak. icon_lol.gif

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you need a big intimidating forward as i have said previously pickersgill is not a prop or a starting player or even a bench player god knows why he got another year must be cheap lol but cross is getting better and he is now adding try scoring to his ability ha ha but hope you get some good players and i said this season is about finding feet (you are getting there), weeding out the crap players (yet to see), and seeing what positions need a boost and in my eyes you need prop x1 at least, alot of people are saying a 7 but hanbury will go well with gametime, a hooker and i hope you keep mcshane and 1x centre then maybe a couple of squad players 2nd rowers utility players

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Quote: wolfinwidnes "you need a big intimidating forward as i have said previously pickersgill is not a prop or a starting player or even a bench player god knows why he got another year must be cheap lol but cross is getting better and he is now adding try scoring to his ability ha ha but hope you get some good players and i said this season is about finding feet (you are getting there), weeding out the crap players (yet to see), and seeing what positions need a boost and in my eyes you need prop x1 at least, alot of people are saying a 7 but hanbury will go well with gametime, a hooker and i hope you keep mcshane and 1x centre then maybe a couple of squad players 2nd rowers utility players'"


Seen as you dont go the Widnes games i wont take your point of view. icon_wave.gif

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Seen as you dont go the Widnes games i wont take your point of view.

seen as i go to all the ones that dont clash with warrington games as my wife is a chemic

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Seen as you dont go the Widnes games i wont take your point of view.
Bizarre comment because what he says is pretty much true.

We will need another prop for next season (injuries/suspensions).

We could do with a better than Dean/Marsh/Isa.

We do need another hooker for next season along with White, so hopefully we can sign Mick Shane.

Hanbury started off slow but now he's showing what he can do, mainly because our pack isn't getting stream rolled anymore.

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Quote: Paddy_88 "Bizarre comment because what he says is pretty much true.

We will need another prop for next season (injuries/suspensions).

We could do with a better Centre than Dean/Marsh/Isa.

We do need another hooker for next season along with White, so hopefully we can sign Mick Shane.

Hanbury started off slow but now he's showing what he can do, mainly because our pack isn't getting stream rolled anymore.'"


as i say i go to most home games anyway as long as they dont clash with any wire games and i have been watching rugby for a long time i am just pointing out as a neutral with no trolling etc as like i say i like what you are doing at the club and what you are trying to achieve and i follow it quite closely as my wifes a chemic.

yes i have a banter and the rest of it and i cheered as much as you guys when you got the license as i wanted the derby back but if you think what i say isn't true then you are deluded.

superleague is all about strength in depth rather too many than too little etc

and i stick with you need

1x prop big intimidating prop
1x hooker
1x centre (you cant be happy with penalty machine isa
2-3x rotation players utility 1x back that can fill centre,wing,fullback 1 or 2 forward backrowers.

rant over and sorry paddy none aimed at you bud

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Quote: Paddy_88 "Bizarre comment because what he says is pretty much true.

We will need another prop for next season (injuries/suspensions).

We could do with a better Centre than Dean/Marsh/Isa.

We do need another hooker for next season along with White, so hopefully we can sign Mick Shane.

Hanbury started off slow but now he's showing what he can do, mainly because our pack isn't getting stream rolled anymore.'"



I disagree as we have plenty of props now with Cross,Pickersgill,Davies,O Carroll,Kite,and Kavanagh.6 props is what is required, but if Kite goes i think one prop.Dean has played well recently and we will sign a hooker.We are not made of money like Warrington either, and i think Pickers is a bench player in my opinion, as done well in the last few games.Remember he has only just recovered from a serious neck injury.We know we need a few extra players, and i dont need a cocky Wire fan spouting off.Had too many Wire fans on here talking about how poor we are, and i wish they all sod off.We are not made of money and their is a salary cap?Not getting enough fans to buy quality like Wigan or Warrington.

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Quote: wolfinwidnes "as i say i go to most home games anyway as long as they dont clash with any wire games and i have been watching rugby for a long time i am just pointing out as a neutral with no trolling etc as like i say i like what you are doing at the club and what you are trying to achieve and i follow it quite closely as my wifes a chemic.

yes i have a banter and the rest of it and i cheered as much as you guys when you got the license as i wanted the derby back but if you think what i say isn't true then you are deluded.

superleague is all about strength in depth rather too many than too little etc

and i stick with you need

1x prop big intimidating prop
1x hooker
1x centre (you cant be happy with penalty machine isa
2-3x rotation players utility 1x back that can fill centre,wing,fullback 1 or 2 forward backrowers.

rant over and sorry paddy none aimed at you bud'"

Isa is a decent winger and Dean and Marsh will be the centres.So aimed at me because i disagree with you?We will add about 4 players to the squad that we already have anyway.Did you watch us against Saints, as i think our forwards dominated.Tickle is already signing, and i support Betts judgement more than yours, if having a pop at me.

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "I disagree as we have plenty of props now with Cross,Pickersgill,Davies,O Carroll,Kite,and Kavanagh.6 props is what is required, but if Kite goes i think one prop.Dean has played well recently and we will sign a hooker.We are not made of money like Warrington either, and i think Pickers is a bench player in my opinion, as done well in the last few games.Remember he has only just recovered from a serious neck injury.We know we need a few extra players, and i dont need a cocky Wire fan spouting off.Had too many Wire fans on here talking about how poor we are, and i wish they all sod off.We are not made of money and their is a salary cap?Not getting enough fans to buy quality like Wigan or Warrington.'"


No one is having a pop. Just people giving their honest opinions, the guy was just trying to have a discussion.

I do admire your passion for Widnes and we'll soon be the cocky fans spouting off to the likes of Wire/Wigan/Saints icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Paddy_88 "No one is having a pop. Just people giving their honest opinions, the guy was just trying to have a discussion.

I do admire your passion for Widnes and we'll soon be the cocky fans spouting for to the likes of Wire/Wigan/Saints
He said sorry Paddy not aimed at you, so must be me then.I say that was a pop back for saying i wont listen to a Wire fan. icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif Joking aside i apologise if does go a few Widnes games.But not as many as me though the wire twix. icon_thumb.gif

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yes i have a banter and the rest of it and i cheered as much as you guys when you got the license as i wanted the derby back but if you think what i say isn't true then you are deluded.
'"


I was with you mostly up to this bit icon_rolleyes.gif

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