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| Quote: LeythIg "When the contracts start is irrelevant, the fact is they are signed, and we cant just rip them up, even if we wanted to.
The annoying thing is, I don't think there was a deliberate attempt to hold money back and push next season. We spent what money we had to put this year's squad together, and the players we had underperformed.
Next season, the money injected by the corporate club means that we're not in a position where every penny in the club seems to be eaten up by the shambles of a stadium management company.'"
Aye but 'signed' with the knowledge relegation was a serious threat! So in that case miss management as well!
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| Quote: J20 "Aye but 'signed' with the knowledge relegation was a serious threat! So in that case miss management as well!'"
So should we have found ourselves at the end of the season with next to no players signed up? Wouldn't that be mismanagement?
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| Stop arguing like Bitches.
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| Quote: LeythIg "So should we have found ourselves at the end of the season with next to no players signed up? Wouldn't that be mismanagement?'"
Nope you should of put those clauses in
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| FWIW I'll add my thoughts.
Leigh have completely overinvested in next season. That's their fault and their problem.
I do not see why they think they should be able to operate differently than others next season, they're the ones who have calculated the wrong outcome for next season and it is grossly unfair on the rest if they're able to vastly benefit from that.
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| Exactly Chris!
What would they do if we signed up a load of players in 2008 and this season just asked for dispensation as... 'we thought we'd be in SL' etc etc!
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| Quote: J20 "Exactly Chris!
What would they do if we signed up a load of players in 2008 and this season just asked for dispensation as... 'we thought we'd be in SL' etc etc!'"
My thoughts entirely. You can't assume the wrong thing and then hope the world will change for you when you get it wrong.
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| Quote: Chris Dalton "FWIW I'll add my thoughts.
Leigh have completely overinvested in next season. That's their fault and their problem.
I do not see why they think they should be able to operate differently than others next season, they're the ones who have calculated the wrong outcome for next season and it is grossly unfair on the rest if they're able to vastly benefit from that.'"
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| Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "No you didnt, but you implied we were you big tart.'"
no need for insults my teacher always told me "name calling is the product of a limited intelligence" no further comment needed methinks
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| Quote: peawapp "no need for insults my teacher always told me "name calling is the product of a limited intelligence" no further comment needed methinks'"
Your teacher was obviously wrong.
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| the rules are there and should be stuck to, however I really fail to see why the two divisions have different salary caps given teams in both have access to pretty much the same income streams, name any you can find yourself
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| I may be going against the grain in this thread, but I think Leigh had little choice but to plan for a team playing in the Championship. Especially as next season will be sh/t or bust for several clubs who wish to make a bid. It wasn't clear that they'd go down until the last day, so I do have some sympathy with their position.
Obviously, allowing them a full Championship salary cap in Championship 1 would be wrong, but perhaps some sort of smaller dispensation would be appropriate. Maybe an extra £50k would be enough for them to be able to pay some of their big name players and still have enough to recruit a decent squad?
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| Quote: Pepe "I may be going against the grain in this thread, but I think Leigh had little choice but to plan for a team playing in the Championship. Especially as next season will be sh/t or bust for several clubs who wish to make a bid. It wasn't clear that they'd go down until the last day, so I do have some sympathy with their position.
Obviously, allowing them a full Championship salary cap in Championship 1 would be wrong, but perhaps some sort of smaller dispensation would be appropriate. Maybe an extra £50k would be enough for them to be able to pay some of their big name players and still have enough to recruit a decent squad?'"
Don't get me wrong, I do have a lot of sympathy for Leigh. Particularly their long suffering fans. It's just, people are saying they didn't know they would be relegated, which is true, but it was always a possibility. They should have prepared for the possiblity better. It strikes me that they are going to benefit from bad preperation. What if a team at the bottom of the league for most of the season with a mathematical possibility of staying up but little chance did the same? And at what point do you say, let this team have a bit of a leg up they've made a mistake?
I just feel it is Leigh's fault and they shouldn't be able to benefit from it. If they're allowed, they will waltz the league unopposed. We're all fed up of the uneven playing fields we are constantly being presented with in RL and this would be a similar issue for teams in Championship 1. Although having said that, Leigh fans will feel it was an uneven playing field which relegated them in the first place so I wouldn't expect much guilt, nor would I feel the same in their position. Just looking at it as someone who wished them well in their quest to stay up, it feels wrong that a team might get a huge let off just because they have overspent.
We didn't expect the RFL to play for Peachey did we? His arrival caused us problems, no doubt.
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| Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "Your teacher was obviously wrong.
11722 posts says it all about you talk about a waste of a life you sad sad person
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| The problem lies with the system that has clubs signing players before the end of the season , and also with a salary cap
If say Widnes had signed up a whole squad of players on 2/3 year deals and they then got relegated , what can you do ?
You are obliged to pay them or you get sued for the money anyway
The other option is only having 1 year contracts and nobody can sign any player until the end of the season ' ie GF day '
Now dont now be surprised if the RFL want clauses putting into Championship contracts stating either a get out if relegated or a reduction in wages if relegated from now on
Is that a good thing for long term development of teams and clubs ?
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