The bit in red can i ask WTF are you talking about...?

There is no mention of Widnes being crap anywhere on here...As i said before, the thread was going ok until you trolled in with your anti Wire bile...!

Oh the bit in blue....NEVER gonna happen...!

He'll never do that. Moore is feisty, which works well sometimes and is a total disaster on other occasions. He's almost guaranteed to give a penalty away each match. He'll need to be kept on a short leash by his coach.

For some reason, Widnes haven't travelled in good numbers to the DW in recent years.

Don't worry that hasn't changed

Negatives: Only having one bar in the away end!

Who cares about history unless you're living it? all Wigan fans from the SL era haven't seen that much success, Widnes fans non at all and Wire fans a couple of challenge cups.

It's boring, the only seasons that count are the previous one when someone is holding a trophy and the current one when people are either trying to retain or take it off someone else.

Positives: Some rugby fans want an adult conversation.
Negatives: Too many kids wanting to talk about completely irrelevant guff rather than just the game.

That wasn't my recollection at all.

Whatever happened to that place anyway?

Christ! All this over a friendly.

Positives

1. A game of rugby thank the lord.
2. Anthony mullally, Alex Gerrard and Ben Davies.
3. Anthony watts, you can tell he's class in only 8 minutes.
4. Scott Moore, if he keeps his head he will be great.
5. Widnes attendance, fantastic.

Negatives

None! It was a hit out that's all.

Hallelujah to VM for bringing a bit of clarity.

One more positive...a bit of biff on the field!!

Just wait till the magic game

You have 3 years plenty of time to build,think you will finish above Salford and London Broncos in your 1st season.Swinton next up should get you back to winning ways.

You should write off this season. The only games you should concentrate on are the "Local Pride" games (Wire, Saints and Wigan). They are the games that will bring in interest from the Widnes population. Use this time to bed in the core of your future squad and really go for it next season (2013) with some quality imports (you can bag off the likes of Ah Van et al and bring in a quality Aussie coach while your at it) whilst developing your own youth players pf course.

As well as being extremely patronising it also makes no sense at all.

Yeah, you're right, they have no chance but the should concentrate on possibly the 3 best teams in the league with a 2011 table finish of 1st, 2nd and 3rd?

I think everyone bar the most optimistic Viking knows it's going to be tough but to say, not bother trying except against the local games is daft.

Have a game plan, stick to it and see what happens, treat every game like a cup match and at the end of 2012 get rid of the deadwood.

Exactly, people are forgetting we had a lot missing against wire as did Warrington obviously but with the below added we have a decent competitive squad that can match the bottom 5 sides I have no doubt.

Shaun Briscoe
Jon Clarke
Ben cross
Chris Dean
Rhys hanbury
Anthony watts (only played 8 minutes)
Simon finnigan
Dave Allen
Steve pickersgill
Cameron phelps (rumoured signing)
Sione kite (rumoured signing)