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| Quote: peawapp "read it again V.M. I never said you were a feeder club did I.'"
No you didnt, but you implied we were you big tart.
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| Quote: In EnemyTerritory "
.'" In Leigh's case there may well not be anything about them getting relegated from Champ to Champ1 which is why they are seeking dispensation
True! Yet you'd jsut say that it's there fault for being 'arrogant' if you like!
Similar happened with Newcastle in Prem they had no clauses to reduce wages etc in players contracts (most sides do!) so they are left playing full wack on less revenue!
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| Remember Bradford City and the Benito Carbone problem they had when they were relegated.
I think it's standard practice now, but the difference between the championship and champ1 should be nowhere near as severe as the gap between Super Leek and the Championship once you've included the loss of sky money, sponsorship etc.,.
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| Quote: J20 "In Leigh's case there may well not be anything about them getting relegated from Champ to Champ1 which is why they are seeking dispensation
True! Yet you'd jsut say that it's there fault for being 'arrogant' if you like!
Similar happened with Newcastle in Prem they had no clauses to reduce wages etc in players contracts (most sides do!) so they are left playing full wack on less revenue!'"
And if there was a salary cap in the football league, Newcastle would probably apply for dispensation.
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| Quote: LeythIg "And if there was a salary cap in the football league, Newcastle would probably apply for dispensation.'"
But there's not!
Come on you can't go down and spend more on players then ask for dispensation? To me that is purely taking the pi$$!
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| Quote: J20 "But there's not!
Come on you can't go down and spend more on players then ask for dispensation? To me that is purely taking the pi$$!'"
You sound like the only reasoning behind your argument is a desire to see Leigh crash and burn.
I don't know the finer details of what dispensation has been asked for, when contracts were signed (signed, not announced), and I doubt that you know either.
One argument given for franchising was that clubs could build over a period of time, which is what we are trying to do. With that in mind, wouldn't the RFL be taking the pi$$ if they denied us any dispensation?
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| Not at all I like Leigh!
BUT you can't put out a £ side this season go down and say sod it we'll spend a load next year and get dispensation to screw over rest of the league?
Dispensation for who? Paul, Bibey? There contracts don't start until end of this season so shouldn't count! Leigh fooked up this year simple as!
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| Quote: J20 "Not at all I like Leigh!
BUT you can't put out a poop£ side this season go down and say sod it we'll spend a load next year and get dispensation to screw over rest of the league?
Dispensation for who? Paul, Bibey? There contracts don't start until end of this season so shouldn't count! Leigh fooked up this year simple as!'"
When the contracts start is irrelevant, the fact is they are signed, and we cant just rip them up, even if we wanted to.
The annoying thing is, I don't think there was a deliberate attempt to hold money back and push next season. We spent what money we had to put this year's squad together, and the players we had underperformed.
Next season, the money injected by the corporate club means that we're not in a position where every penny in the club seems to be eaten up by the shambles of a stadium management company.
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| Quote: LeythIg "When the contracts start is irrelevant, the fact is they are signed, and we cant just rip them up, even if we wanted to.
The annoying thing is, I don't think there was a deliberate attempt to hold money back and push next season. We spent what money we had to put this year's squad together, and the players we had underperformed.
Next season, the money injected by the corporate club means that we're not in a position where every penny in the club seems to be eaten up by the shambles of a stadium management company.'"
Aye but 'signed' with the knowledge relegation was a serious threat! So in that case miss management as well!
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| Quote: J20 "Aye but 'signed' with the knowledge relegation was a serious threat! So in that case miss management as well!'"
So should we have found ourselves at the end of the season with next to no players signed up? Wouldn't that be mismanagement?
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| Stop arguing like Bitches.
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| Quote: LeythIg "So should we have found ourselves at the end of the season with next to no players signed up? Wouldn't that be mismanagement?'"
Nope you should of put those clauses in
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| FWIW I'll add my thoughts.
Leigh have completely overinvested in next season. That's their fault and their problem.
I do not see why they think they should be able to operate differently than others next season, they're the ones who have calculated the wrong outcome for next season and it is grossly unfair on the rest if they're able to vastly benefit from that.
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| Exactly Chris!
What would they do if we signed up a load of players in 2008 and this season just asked for dispensation as... 'we thought we'd be in SL' etc etc!
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| Quote: J20 "Exactly Chris!
What would they do if we signed up a load of players in 2008 and this season just asked for dispensation as... 'we thought we'd be in SL' etc etc!'"
My thoughts entirely. You can't assume the wrong thing and then hope the world will change for you when you get it wrong.
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