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Quote: Starbug "Unfortunatley these days , any excuse will do

Attendances are the biggest problem at this level , there is a reason the RFL have 40 % of stadium capacity as a criteria , anything less and the lack of atmosphere is very apparent

The Championship clubs really do need to sit down together [ without an RFL presence ] to discuss what they can do collectively to improve attendances , income and profile of the competitions they contest

I understand that Widnes are the favourites to get the 2012 SL spot up for grabs but until all the clubs make a ' leap of faith ' on the issues outside of the 80 minutes on the pitch , no clubs will ever move forward

All the best'"


It don't matter about attendances if you are 'expansion' clubs though does it????
You can get hardly anybody there and the RFL don't bother a jot as long as you aint from a town on the M62 thats fine. Or have a crowd of freebies!
This is the NRC and some fans don't bother with them so the crowds are lower than League games.

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Quote: Trashcansinatra "That is the real concern and one which we all need to work hard to reverse.'"


Yes, but the club have decided to move from Sunday afternoon games and this has had an effect to my certain knowlege.
As long as I can get to a game of rugby league, I'm not too bothered who I watch. There are plenty of amateur teams in Widnes and during the summer there are Runcorn and Liverpool Buccaneers.

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Quote: Doc Holliday "
As long as I can get to a game of rugby league, I'm not too bothered who I watch. '"
Well you have nailed your colours firmly to the mast there Doc and they ain't black and white.

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Quote: GSF "Well you have nailed your colours firmly to the mast there Doc and they ain't black and white.'"


Except when I'm watching West Bank Swans. Over 50,000 Widnesians can't be bothered watching Widnes so I don't see why I should be too bothered.

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Doc has watched WIdnes home and away since around 1976, don't really see why he should justify himself to anyone.

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Quote: moz88 "Doc has watched WIdnes home and away since around 1976, don't really see why he should justify himself to anyone.'"


But from his recent posts (on what is, after all, a Widnes RLFC supporters message board) it is clear that he has a number of issues with the current regime at Widnes and Rugby League in general. He is entitled to his opinions ( and I agree with him on many of his points) but the overall impression he gives is that his heart is no longer with the club and the sport so surely he DOES have to justify this on this type of board.

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Quote: moz88 "Doc has watched WIdnes home and away since around 1976, don't really see why he should justify himself to anyone.'"
Doesn't need anyone sticking up for him either.I have followed Widnes for a similar ammount of time as Doc and therefore find it even more baffling how people can be fickle enough to just drop the club like a hot brick because of a change in home game days.I am totally opposed to Fri/Sat evening KO's myself but that won't stop me from supporting the team if I can get there,which I can.Judging by last nights attendance of 3000 it would seem we haven't lost many fans or we have gained just as many as has been lost.I don't see why the team should have to suffer anyway because of a decision made by the management.As for 50000 people not bothered about supporting the club,well you could say the same about Wigan- over 65000 people dont't bother with them and Warrington and Leeds and ST.Helens.Get down to a game Doc,you know it makes sense.Like you used to say yourself,you will only be wondering how they are doing if you aren't there.

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Quote: moz88 "Doc has watched WIdnes home and away since around 1976, don't really see why he should justify himself to anyone.'"


I'll still be there for the occassional game mate but as you know, we've always gone as a family, but my lad can't get back home in time for Friday night games and in a few months my daughter will also be living away from home.
We met 'In Enemy Territory' last night in The Baltic Fleet and he told us it was a much better performance so that's good news.

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Makes me laugh though,when people decide not to bother going to the games and then come on these forums and bore the ars off the rest of us with the reasons they have stopped.If you don't want to go then fine,don't go.You won't be missed.

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Just over 3000 on Saturday not bad with even less away support than the week before

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Quote: GSF "Makes me laugh though,when people decide not to bother going to the games and then come on these forums and bore the ars off the rest of us with the reasons they have stopped.If you don't want to go then fine,don't go.You won't be missed.'"


Except by you though. evidently.

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