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Quote: David Hughes is top drawer and without qualms, or fuss or whinging he has divvied up an incredible amount of money, almost soccer-style money to keep this club afloat...He can't continue to do that and nor should he, and that is why I fear for this club. I have a concern and I hope the people who make decisions at the top end make some correct ones. "McDermott on Sky Sports
"David Hughes is top drawer and without qualms, or fuss or whinging he has divvied up an incredible amount of money, almost soccer-style money to keep this club afloat...He can't continue to do that and nor should he, and that is why I fear for this club. I have a concern and I hope the people who make decisions at the top end make some correct ones."'"


Quote: David Hughes is top drawer and without qualms, or fuss or whinging he has divvied up an incredible amount of money, almost soccer-style money to keep this club afloat...He can't continue to do that and nor should he, and that is why I fear for this club. I have a concern and I hope the people who make decisions at the top end make some correct ones. "Ian Ramsdale BBC London RL Reporter
Harlequins have asked the Rugby Football League to help ensure the club's future, BBC London understands.
"I understand the club have been talking to the governing body for some time now, about overcoming some of the costs and difficulties of developing the game in the south.'"


Quote: David Hughes is top drawer and without qualms, or fuss or whinging he has divvied up an incredible amount of money, almost soccer-style money to keep this club afloat...He can't continue to do that and nor should he, and that is why I fear for this club. I have a concern and I hope the people who make decisions at the top end make some correct ones. "BBC Sport
Investor takes control to secure future of Harlequins
Chairman David Hughes has dispelled doubts over Harlequins' future by pledging to back the club until at least the end of 2014.
Hughes will increase his 35% stake in Quins and says they have no financial worries despite recent high-profile talks with the Rugby Football League.
"I want to make it crystal clear that discussions with the RFL have not been around financial support," he said.
"I can categorically state we did not ask for, or receive, a financial bail."'"


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You're so right. The corrupt HMRC are in the pocket of the RFL's Mr Big Richard Lewis. It's a conspiracy I tell thee

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To be honest they could try for the next 100 yrs and the game will not expand.Union and football will never die.I prefer see teams like Fax etc in Superleague or Barrow where they play in schools and local teams.

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "To be honest they could try for the next 100 yrs and the game will not expand.Union and football will never die.I prefer see teams like Fax etc in Superleague or Barrow where they play in schools and local teams.'"
I disagree completly.
Football will implode sooner or later it has to it cannot keep going in it's current state.
Millionares/Billionares will find a new playthings and even if they dont no one can tell me that the currect wages are in anyway sustainable.
That sport has HUGE problems and when it finally goes BANG which it will it will be a BIG BANG.

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Having read the article .. It sounds like a genuine "miss understanding/miss comunication..

Time 4 everyone to take a chill pill...

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Quote: Roverswall "I disagree completly.
Football will implode sooner or later it has to it cannot keep going in it's current state.
Millionares/Billionares will find a new playthings and even if they dont no one can tell me that the currect wages are in anyway sustainable.
That sport has HUGE problems and when it finally goes BANG which it will it will be a BIG BANG.'"


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Quote: Roverswall "Well it's clearly not as strong as the stuff you are drinking if you think association football can continue in its current state without it tearing itself apart.'"


That is why in the Premiership Man Utd sold out 70 odd thousand,Arsenal near 60,000,Liverpool 44000, and possibly 60,000 if got a new stadium.Man Utd just offered 250,000 grand a week to Rooney.Rugby league is not expanding, just look at london still not averaging over 4000 in a capital.In my opinion that is shocking. Too far - Alex You just do not like to see a team like Widnes in Superleague, so jog on. a026.gif London has had many chances and Widnes have been ted on big time.I am based down south, so i think i know if they like Rugby league.
People like you just come on a Widnes board to stir things up, and really your just a prick.

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Nice. Glad I didn't voice an opinion different to yours.

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Quote: jonny the leyther "Nice. Glad I didn't voice an opinion different to yours.'"


So football dieing?I do not think so.He is a HKR fan who clearly hates Widnes.A capital like London should be attracting an average near to 8000 if was expanding.Obviously they go and watch football,rugby union etc.I was based in London for 8 yrs so i know they are not interested in rugby league.It is just a few thousand out of 7 million people. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "So football dieing?I do not think so.He is a HKR fan who clearly hates Widnes.A capital like London should be attracting an average near to 8000 if was expanding.Obviously they go and watch football,rugby union etc.I was based in London for 8 yrs so i know they are not interested in rugby league.It is just a few thousand out of 7 million people.
You're an embarrassment.

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "That is why in the Premiership Man Utd sold out 70 odd thousand,Arsenal near 60,000,Liverpool 44000, and possibly 60,000 if got a new stadium.Man Utd just offered 250,000 grand a week to Rooney.Rugby league is not expanding, just look at london still not averaging over 4000 in a capital.In my opinion that is shocking. Too far - Alex You just do not like to see a team like Widnes in Superleague, so jog on. Like I said when the millionares get bored or the wages/debts get to large Association Football is screwed.
examples

Manchester United - £800M in debt (that is 4/5 of a BILLION pounds to you or me)
Chelsea - looking at their wage bill makes me cry and what happens if the Russian pulls out tommorrow as there is no way they can cover those wages/that debt without him?
Manchester City - Look at Chelsea.
Sunderland - Look at Manchester City.
Wigan - Look at Sunderland.
Newcastle - Look at Wigan.
Spurs - Look at Newcastle.
West ham - Look at Spurs.
Etc,Etc.
The Debt that the top 2 teirs of the Football Assoociation owe is eye watering and guess what ITS GETTING BIGGER.
Like I said only an idiot can't see it imploding at some point.
Also I am glad you brought up Mr Rooneys new wage, Now answer me a question what will that do to the wider Association Football wage structure will it make the wages go up or down.
Answer that question and you competly prove my point.

Oh and BTW I DO wan't Widnes in SL but that doesn't mean that when someone is talking silly talk I wont call them on it.

This is called reasoned debate BTW lets see if you are capable of it or are you going to revert to name calling again?

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Quote: Roverswall "snip'"


Debt is also relative to income. Those figures look big, but so too is their income. Much of the debt has also been placed on their books via the "purchase" of the club. The debt hasn't been run up via trading, despite the sizeable pay grades of soccer players. Soccer won't implode - it's BskyB's biggest draw.

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Quote: littlerich "Debt is also relative to income. Those figures look big, but so too is their income. Much of the debt has also been placed on their books via the "purchase" of the club. The debt hasn't been run up via trading, despite the sizeable pay grades of soccer players. Soccer won't implode - it's BskyB's biggest draw.'"
It maybe Sky's biggest draw but it also recives by far the biggest slice even Sky will only pay so much.

I fail to see how the debt is listed makes much diffrence its either debt or it isn't.
Take Liverpool as an example I would imagine the debt was listed in just the way you mentioned that still didnt' stop RBS getting twitchy and asking for the money back, That would have put LFC in administration not their American owners.

Also Mr rooney now gets £1/4M a week, Can you guess whats going to happen next?
I would imagine most of the top earners at Chelsea and M City are going to start saying 'My turn now and if hes getting £250,000 a week I want £300,000' and I bet they get it this them once again will make all the lesser players in the prem's agents get even better monies for their average players.
There is one thing that I failed to mention and that is that apart from the Sky cash their is a finite amount of money the clubs can get from their customers due to the price fans will/can pay for tickets and once that point is reached clubs will start folding whilst still in the prem at that point the sport WILL go POP as even billionares will only stump up so much.

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