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| Quote mikej="mikej"There is no "away" end at the HJ. Warrington fans have always bought tickets for the West stand (even when dare I say the Hull clubs come down!"). The Warrington fans were moved "for their own safety", which in itself isn't good. But its the first time I ever remember seeing police have to pull out batons.'"
It's like that at Saints but there are certain fixtures whereby we cannot sell tickets there to home fans.
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| Just something for the idiots who have attached themselves to Widnes to think about - if they are actually capable of rational thought;
The RFL has stated that SL will reduce to 12 teams. They did not say it would be the bottom 2 clubs who are relegated to the lower divisions. That infers they will decide who stays and who goes, regardless of any on-field performance.
So, you're sat in Red Hall, thinking of who to get rid of and 'voila', one club's name keeps popping up in police/stewards reports. Easy job ....... Widnes kicked out, and all the hard work done on & off the field by people who genuinely have the clubs wellbeing at heart, ruined by morons. And remember, the next tier down will almost certainly be 'SL2', so no guarantee of being 'welcomed' into that. They could end up going down to the 3rd tier (ask Crusaders about that), never to be seen again!
Widnes (and some others) have a choice - sort out and remove the idiots now (they're not exactly hard to spot), or cease to be part of SL.
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Quote BogBrushHead="BogBrushHead"Just something for the idiots who have attached themselves to Widnes to think about - if they are actually capable of rational thought;
The RFL has stated that SL will reduce to 12 teams. They did not say it would be the bottom 2 clubs who are relegated to the lower divisions. That infers they will decide who stays and who goes, regardless of any on-field performance.
So, you're sat in Red Hall, thinking of who to get rid of and 'voila', one club's name keeps popping up in police/stewards reports. Easy job ....... Widnes kicked out, and all the hard work done on & off the field by people who genuinely have the clubs wellbeing at heart, ruined by morons. And remember, the next tier down will almost certainly be 'SL2', so no guarantee of being 'welcomed' into that. They could end up going down to the 3rd tier (ask Crusaders about that), never to be seen again!
Widnes (and some others) have a choice - sort out and remove the idiots now (they're not exactly hard to spot), or cease to be part of SL.'"
Are you sure;
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_12 ... eague.html
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Quote BogBrushHead="BogBrushHead"Just something for the idiots who have attached themselves to Widnes to think about - if they are actually capable of rational thought;
The RFL has stated that SL will reduce to 12 teams. They did not say it would be the bottom 2 clubs who are relegated to the lower divisions. That infers they will decide who stays and who goes, regardless of any on-field performance.
So, you're sat in Red Hall, thinking of who to get rid of and 'voila', one club's name keeps popping up in police/stewards reports. Easy job ....... Widnes kicked out, and all the hard work done on & off the field by people who genuinely have the clubs wellbeing at heart, ruined by morons. And remember, the next tier down will almost certainly be 'SL2', so no guarantee of being 'welcomed' into that. They could end up going down to the 3rd tier (ask Crusaders about that), never to be seen again!
Widnes (and some others) have a choice - sort out and remove the idiots now (they're not exactly hard to spot), or cease to be part of SL.'"
Are you sure;
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_12 ... eague.html
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| Well done Widnes, about time too. Why did it take so long? Seeing trouble from a small minority week in, week out is a real problem. It is damaging for the club of Widnes, their genuine and good natured fans and the game in general.
These banning orders and convictions can't come quick enough. Violent thugs who ruin it for the rest of the RL supporting world are a disgrace who make me feel sick.
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Quote WolfiesUndies="WolfiesUndies"You are a disgrace to the game. Please don't say it was a minority the crowd behaviour was appalling at warrington'"
From the pictures, there were 10-15 'people' in the following shots in the link and maybe 5-6 actually look like they are fully involved. Don't tar us all with the same brush as the wits seen here;
www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/new ... _at_derby/
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Quote WolfiesUndies="WolfiesUndies"You are a disgrace to the game. Please don't say it was a minority the crowd behaviour was appalling at warrington'"
From the pictures, there were 10-15 'people' in the following shots in the link and maybe 5-6 actually look like they are fully involved. Don't tar us all with the same brush as the wits seen here;
www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/new ... _at_derby/
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| Quote FunnyGuy="FunnyGuy"No one has mentioned the half a dozen or so wire fans that decided to buy tickets for the widnes end only to be escorted back to the wire standing side of the ground.'"
There are [ialways[/i Warrington fans in the West (away) stand. Always. Every game. Never in all my years watching Warrington have I ever seen them have to be moved for their own safety. Anyone who tries to blame these few Wire fans for starting the trouble or contributing to it (as I've seen on Twitter) is telling bare-faced lies. The trouble started when the stewards tried to eject a few of your 'fans' after two smoke bombs were thrown and those 'fans' decided to throw punches at the stewards instead. The sight of Widnes 'fans' running over to join in was disgusting.
I feel very sorry for the vast majority of your genuine fans. This behaviour seems to be following your club around recently and it undermines all the hard work your club have done on and off the pitch. It was a great game for you last night and sadly a lot of people are talking about the trouble rather than the result. Let's hope the club can get these idiots found and banned and we can all get back to talking about Rugby League again.
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I Stand corrected ...... but makes it even easier to do - If idiots continually cause trouble, give that team a 30 point deduction and that's them in the bottom 2.
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I Stand corrected ...... but makes it even easier to do - If idiots continually cause trouble, give that team a 30 point deduction and that's them in the bottom 2.
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| Quote Rugbychickâ„¢="Rugbychickâ„¢"There are [ialways[/i Warrington fans in the West (away) stand. Always. Every game. Never in all my years watching Warrington have I ever seen them have to be moved for their own safety. Anyone who tries to blame these few Wire fans for starting the trouble or contributing to it (as I've seen on Twitter) is telling bare-faced lies. The trouble started when the stewards tried to eject a few of your 'fans' after two smoke bombs were thrown and those 'fans' decided to throw punches at the stewards instead. The sight of Widnes 'fans' running over to join in was disgusting.
I feel very sorry for the vast majority of your genuine fans. This behaviour seems to be following your club around recently and it undermines all the hard work your club have done on and off the pitch. It was a great game for you last night and sadly a lot of people are talking about the trouble rather than the result. Let's hope the club can get these idiots found and banned and we can all get back to talking about Rugby League again.'"
Have you seen the video of your security 'dealing with' the situation?
If anything's disgusting it's the way the stewards/security acted!
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| Quote The Perry Boy="The Perry Boy"Have you seen the video of your security 'dealing with' the situation?
If anything's disgusting it's the way the stewards/security acted!'"
I'd be surprised if many commenting on here actually saw anything other than "trouble".
3 lessons here:
1) Widnes Fans: don't chuck smokebombs it's unnecessary, potentially unsafe and will get you kicked out
2) Stewards: Don't knock the living out of someone for throwing smoke bombs or gobbing off. You'll lose your job and may be charged
3) Widnes Fans: If a steward is pasting an idiot for chucking smoke bombs or anything else, get the attention of the police, film it or report it to the club/police after the game. Don't intervene with violence and expect any decent outcome. If it's a mate then intervene before and stop him chucking stuff on the pitch or tell him to go peacefully if he's gonna get chucked out.
Maybe a fourth should be don't drink alcohol if it turns you into an idiot. I used to act like an idiot when drunk (not at the rugby mind and not every time I drank) so I quit 10 years ago. Not had a scrap since funnily enough. It's the common factor in all the recent incidents. The Wakefield incident could easily have happened when I was at Cas away but the idiots singing offensive stuff were far enough away from the home fans and the stewards nipped it early, ejecting the worst offender and promising his idiot mates they'd keep him safe cos he was so far gone. Have to say they were brilliant, the idiots behaved and it made the rest of the game far more enjoyable.
At Hull it was a slight over reaction by the stewards followed by a complete over reaction by the drunk. Enough said.
This lastest one however has hallmarks of fans planning to cause trouble from the get go and if so then they should be banned for life along with anybody who did anything other than defend themselves when attacked (I include the stewards here).
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| Quote The Perry Boy="The Perry Boy"Have you seen the video of your security 'dealing with' the situation?
If anything's disgusting it's the way the stewards/security acted!'"
That's right, blame the steward and completely ignore the reason the stewards waded in in the first place.
Quote The Perry Boy="yossarian"2) Stewards: Don't knock the living poop out of someone for throwing smoke bombs or gobbing off. You'll lose your job and may be charged'"
I don't disagree with that
Quote The Perry Boy="yossarian"This lastest one however has hallmarks of fans planning to cause trouble from the get go and if so then they should be banned for life along with anybody who did anything other than defend themselves when attacked (I include the stewards here).'"
I agree with that. There was trouble and an uneasy atmosphere from before kick off. Our group in the South Stand commented before kick off that all away fans congregated in the middle of the West Stand, however the very vocal Widnes fans last night congregated towards the South Stand end, chanting anti-Wire songs and deliberately being provocative. It was into the first half before we heard a pro-Widnes song and not an anti-Wire one.
FWIW we had a great view of the trouble, after the second smoke bomb was thrown and the stewards moved in we saw them having words and attempting to eject someone. At which point a fan seemed to reach over the barrier and punch the steward, the steward responded in kind and all hell broke loose. Added to by more fans coming charging in and the police wading in with their batons. I'm not in any way condoning the steward's behaviour but it was provoked and he was not the instigator. For me the football season can't come soon enough and hopefully these idiots will disappear back to the dark side rather than tarring our sport.
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