Bulls boy I do expect to have some big defeats but by 20 to 30 points not 60.We where poor last year under Betts and got smashed 3 times by Leigh.Their is no set moves and we bunched like kids,no kicking game and signed some crap like White,and some of our Championship players where not good enough in that league.Leuluai was average in the 20s and others where better.Finnigan,Pickersgill,Coyle,Leuluai and Haggerty are poor decisions to take on.Flynn and Craven I agreed to take upto Superleague and Allen I was unsure about.We came 5th last year and I am not convinced about Betts.

Tbf to betts his hands were tied re signings- its all very well telling you in may you are coming up but you aren't aloud to take to players till September and money wasn't available for signings till Christmas by which time it was a case of seeing who was left!
Remember hudds managed to lose nearly all games with mal Reilly and John kear (4 wins!) in charge - its about the squad available and you will be able to start to build this season. the worst thing you can do IMO is to give the coach and players stick- the team get into a downward spiral that's difficult to pull out of if the fans don't give them self belief. First season was always going to be tough.

Huddersfield are a team looking to win things, and last season were looking like a champion side having beaten all comers (they only lost one home game all season against Wigan in a game that could have gone either way) and we will put scores like that on other teams this season.

Like Warrington they are an attacking minded team and like to throw the ball about, so a big score was no surprise. Especially on a dry day, a firm pitch and near perfect conditions.

As has been said, its all about building for Widnes, you'e got three years, not three weeks or three months to get competative and there are enough signs there that Widnes wil win enough games this season to do themselves justice.

Credit to the Widnes fans who backed their team to the hilt and stayed till the end to applaud them off even though it's hard to take any kind of defeat. We have been there as Huddersfield and so can fully understand, don't give up on them as it will get better. SL needs a team like Widnes.
As for comments about us being a little club, we are fine with that and don't have a problem at all. Browny got us playing some entertaining RL which is great to watch for the fans, early doors but we 2 outta 2 so all we can ask of the players really.

Good to see you fellas back in the big time....when i hear the name Widnes i think of Davies, Offiah, Currier, Hulme, Koloto, Tait etc and watching highlights from Naughton Park and dreaming of my team ever playing teams like that, Widnes belong in the top division .

Dont get too down though its a long hard slog and it wont happen overnight it took us a good 5-6 years to become a competitive side in SL but were getting there now.
Think yesterday was a bit of 2 things......we just clicked in attack and your confidence went down and we caught you on a really bad defensive day ...............it will come though keep the faith, see ya back at Naughto......sorry Halton Stadium !

how did ah van play?

to quote Eric Morecambe............" RUBBISH"

Actually he was ok, tried hard with little service and defended as well as can have been expected.

Huddersfield are a very good side and I was expecting to get beat yesterday but watch to your team get beat like that was hard to take. Hopefully it will give a us a kick up the backside for the Salford game and with Watts, Clarke, Briscoe and Marsh potentially back we could see our first win next Sunday.

This is a long term project and although I know we will get a few good spankings along the way, I'm just happy to be here in SL.

How many did we take? That stand holds 4000. It wasn't half full but maybe a quarter full IMO so around 1000?

I would say no more than 700 - 800.

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