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James Webster did a magnificent job at HKR as player coach.

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Quote: Pepe "We don't want that clown. What's the point of swapping like for like?'"


Is it like for like, bar the Whitehaven connection ? Or the fact he hasnt won anything ?

He's got to be there or thereabouts for this job, even if the fans dont like him and he doesnt like Widnes. icon_biggrin.gif

Aside from chatting e there arent many more experienced coaches that were going to attract.

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: widneslardboy "Is it like for like, bar the Whitehaven connection ? Or the fact he hasnt won anything ?

He's got to be there or thereabouts for this job, even if the fans dont like him and he doesnt like Widnes.
Because his teams are disorganised and hasn't a clue how to change things. He's not the kind of tactician we need in this league. Even with excellent players his team is still rubbish.

Can you tell which of the two coach's I'm talking about there? icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Pepe "Because his teams are disorganised and hasn't a clue how to change things. He's not the kind of tactician we need in this league. Even with excellent players his team is still rubbish.

Can you tell which of the two coach's I'm talking about there?
I know a few people who have played under Cullen and if anything he is over-organised.

Im not sure if he was ever going to succeed at Warrington or if anyone ever will despite the money. He did kick the club onto the next level though at the end of the Wilderspool/ start of the HJ era.

Again im not sure who would be my first choice but im mindful of not ruling out a very experienced coach, who is available at this time because of his previous connections.

He'll be considered ive no doubt. Im not sure that any of the TIW forum suggestions such as Scarts, John Dixon or Ian Millward will be though.

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Karl Harrison,JOn Sharp or even Stanky for me.

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Quote: widneslardboy " I know a few people who have played under Cullen and if anything he is over-organised.'"

Which is effectively the same thing. Any skill will be coached out of the players by sticking to a rigorous game plan. It’s just the basics that need taking care of, such as proper organisation of the defensive line, plenty of varied moves in attack with lots of runners and dummy runners offering options and diversions. Oh and discipline. The rest can be left to the skilful players to do their thing.

Quote: widneslardboy " Im not sure if he was ever going to succeed at Warrington or if anyone ever will despite the money. He did kick the club onto the next level though at the end of the Wilderspool/ start of the HJ era.'"

They just haven’t had the right coach in place. As soon as they do they might win something. Cullen wasn’t up to it in SL for Warrington, with all the money in the world so, therefore, why bring him in to do the same here?

Quote: widneslardboy " Again im not sure who would be my first choice but im mindful of not ruling out a very experienced coach, who is available at this time because of his previous connections. '"

If push comes to shove I’d rather keep Stanky as coach, rather than bringing in Cullen.

Quote: widneslardboy " He'll be considered ive no doubt. Im not sure that any of the TIW forum suggestions such as Scarts, John Dixon or Ian Millward will be though '"

Perhaps and, for what it’s worth, I doubt it could get much worse under Cullen than it’s been under Ste Mac. But that just isn’t a good enough reason to give him the job. I don’t think Scarts is even in RL now in any capacity. Ian Millward would be very good with a flair team but isn’t a good tactician that can organise a defence. John Dixon has done a good job at this level, but he won’t be leaving CC in Super League any time soon. So I agree they are pointless suggestions. If I were to come up with a pointless suggestion I’d say Tony Rea. Now there is a brilliant organiser and tactician.

For me the best possible man available with similar qualities would be Jon Sharp. Whether or not he’d come, I have no idea, but we’ve a better chance of getting him than some of the others mentioned.

It does appear that Hanley seems to be in poll position. He is totally the wrong man imo.

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I wouldn't wish John Sharp or Karl Harrison on my worst enemy!

Wait and see how well Nathan Brown does with the same set of Huddersfield players that Sharp had before you sell yourselfes on the idea of him as a coach.

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Can I just say how gutted I am as a Leigh fan, with the squad at his disposal and the money thrown at it, a decent coach will have you walking this league.
Bring back McCormack

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I feel a bit sorry for Steve and I'm sure despite some jubilation from frustrated fans we can all thank him for his hard work and wish him the best of luck in the future.

That said, I would be lying if I said I wasn't one of the frustrated ones. Rugby League is a tough game to love these days for a good few reasons and from Widnes' perspective I'm a bit fed up of underachieving. We've really got a chance this season to win the damn thing but we need the right man at the helm. If we want rugby league to survive in this town and continue to work we need a team people can get behind. No amount of empty promises and "final appearances" will do that. We need to start winning real things.

I was quite surprised when we brought Steve back but they were difficult circumstances and tbf I think we did better last season than many thought we would given the insurmountable challenge we faced after the gf. But as the Oldham game brought to light, our team isn't really capable of that extra spark which will break teams and I don't think we will ever really get that with Steve at the helm.

Good luck Steve, good move for Widnes, lets get out there now and show the world of RL what were really made of.

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Cullen,Hanley,Harrison. No thanks.

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Quote: 1977 "Cullen,Hanley,Harrison. No thanks.'"


Agreed!

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Definite no to Cullen or Harrison. A bit on the fence about Hanley.

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