Actually the year it was getting built we should have been relagated to the bottom tier but the RFL changed it to 1 league.

Yep.............and justified it would seem

Still, you get my point surely ?

You're quite wrong mate. Harry Edgar has made some very good points about Barrow being in Super League over the years in the 'Rugby League Review'.

I'm in the same boat as Leigh now, hope you do 'em in. Well done Gary I despise Barra' even more now.

This is absolute nonsense to be honest. The idea that any of us resent Barrow just because you are not in the M62. Its as if the M62 is part of some ancient lay line which has some spiritual significance.

This paragraph is as much as to the reason I think there is a certain negativity towards some of your fans. You're being delusional, paranoid, and unfair. Every time we talk our teams up we're arrogant to you. Every time you lost it's the referees fault.





I don't think you will get many on here agreeing with you about the rfl talk of youth policies and stadia. It's an area the sport needs to focus on. Too many clubs were and are relying on over the hill journeymen and foreigners and giving nothing towards the future. We're generally quite proud here of what the club has achieved with youth and facilities. We're looking to the future, other teams aren't.

We might not agree with the licensing, but those two aspects are vital to the future of this sport and our club. If you're a supporter of a club doing nothing off the pitch, you should be worried, because they need to step up.

Don't call me shirley

Gary some times you make sense and seem like an honest fan enjoying somew great success and rightly so!

However your lot as the Chelski's an all have fans who only know the success leading to Barrow becoming the sorest losers in the league... not helped by the Chairman throwing a paddy after every loss / draw at however is nearerst too him!

Take the good with the bad and you'll be happier... as a Vikings fan trust me, getting worked up about every point dropped doesn't help yourselves or other fans opinons on the Raiders!

I think the sore loser has worn off now. After last season, expectation in Barrow is very high (and rightly so). We have a right to be cheesed off when our team doesn't perform and this often boils over into sounding like sore losers which Im sure isn't intended. I think we have shown a great deal of humility and grace in the defeat, sorry ass whooping we got from Fev. There were a few people blaming the ref etc but it was simply the fact Fev were well up for it and we weren't allowed to play. Ref's usually cop alot of the blame when anybody gets beaten until a voice of reason posts a sensible opinion. I have been pretty vocal in my opinion of Mcormack as demonstrated by my signature and as of yet I am still to be convinced I am wrong.

If people read some posts on the totalrl forum we have you will see that most of our supporters are desperate to have a proper youth policy and see locals rise through the ranks, however as we have seen what can only be described as utter tripe for a number of years we can be forgiven for enjoying what we were served last season and forgetting about the other issues. I have continually posted that Widnes' infastructure is what every team in the Championship (and a number of SL teams) should strive to achieve and as mentioned above I will become worried if there is no mention of a Scholarship/youth set up by the end of this season. I am led to believe that plans are afoot to address this issue along with all the other stuff. We have to remember that we are new to this success and that Rome wasn't built in a day. As much as we would love it in Barrow, SL in 2012 is a pipe dream & I believe we are behind a number of teams for a license. 2015 is a realistic target and is achievable providing the club continues to grow at the rate it has since Des Johnston came on board.

On the subject of Des, I like the fella. He wears his heart on his sleeve, has the clubs best interests at heart and puts his money where his mouth is, which nobody can knock him for. I would say he is just one of those characters who prefers to voice his opinions and compared to what we have had in the past he is a breath of fresh air - if anybody can sort the club out and get us into SL oneday, I believe he is the fella to do it.

I think 2012 would be early and no disrespect but if Barrow got in with current facilities and no youth structure you'd have to question the RFL's motives even more so.

However now you have good support built by on field success and then Dez took the extra revenue and potential to sort stadium out and set up a youth structure that would then likely be the main one in Cumbria and get some top youngsters in and you could pretty much be a cert in that case for 2015 and then Dez would also get the respect of all other fans etc.

Short of getting Hunslet at home, that's the best draw we could have hoped for.

Certainly not counting our chickens (I saw us lose at York earlier in the season so perfectly conceivable that we could lose at Hunslet), but a Leigh-Widnes weekend in Blackpool would be a bloody belter.

If that's the case then you should have the Wembley of the North up at Barra in no time .

Seriously though, we all knock Des but I'm certain that if most clubs had him as chairman then the fans would be made up. There's certainly no ambiguity as to where his loyalties lie.

IMO he seems like a person who is used to getting his own way all the time and can't really deal with setbacks in a measured way. He just needs to work on keeping his dummy in his mouth.

I am sure fans of all clubs left in the competition would like to see Leigh seeded to guarantee yet another Final for us.