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| You have a squad needed to compete in The Championship. You'll have a new squad when you get into Super League. Why waste a SL squad in The Championship when you don't need to? Simples
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| I do worry that if we are granted a licence, then year 1 could be very damaging in the short term so much so that it could be hard to recover from. A major player turnover and the chance of a new squad taking time to gel. This could seriously affect the younger players at the club in terms of confidence.
I think there'd be a need to recruit a new coach. That might surprise people I know.
But i'm talking about keeping Cullen and the current backroom team but adding a new face that is known for bringing people together. Somebody in the mold of Frank Endacott (I know what you're all gonna say).
What I mean, is a person who has good interpersonal skills that can get the lads bonding. I dont get the impressionthat Cullen is that sort of bloke. He seems very stern and set in his ways and not somebody who is easily approachable. I may be wrong, but thats the persona he has.
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| To me the franchise winner takes the bulk of the losers squad and imports better. It is then hoped that the winner can produce their own after a couple of years
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| Quote: peterw "I do worry that if we are granted a licence, then year 1 could be very damaging in the short term so much so that it could be hard to recover from. A major player turnover and the chance of a new squad taking time to gel. This could seriously affect the younger players at the club in terms of confidence.
I think there'd be a need to recruit a new coach. That might surprise people I know.
But i'm talking about keeping Cullen and the current backroom team but adding a new face that is known for bringing people together. Somebody in the mold of Frank Endacott (I know what you're all gonna say).
What I mean, is a person who has good interpersonal skills that can get the lads bonding. I dont get the impressionthat Cullen is that sort of bloke. He seems very stern and set in his ways and not somebody who is easily approachable. I may be wrong, but thats the persona he has.'"
Have you been watching rugby leaugue for long? If not then you must be a visionary. Give SOC a call - he'll be wondering why he gave PC the job before speaking to you .
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| Yes I see that. The quality is definately a worry. I really hope we can produce some talented kids. Some great young players coming through at the moment. I suppose the true test of our development of players will be seen in a few years.
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| Redchemic, I dont get the point you are making????
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| Year 1 will be difficult - it always is in terms of player turnover, that's why 3 year licences are granted.
Someone like Frank Endacott - well you said it "I know what you're all gonna say".
This seasons team has the best team spirit I've seen for years. As for bonding, I don't know if are best mates or not but they don't have to be bosom buddies, just as any workmates don't have to be - they just have to do their jobs to the best of their abilities - and this season AFAIC they are.
I'd sooner have them playing as a team and for each other as pros than be best buddies like Franks party people.
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| Frank Endacott as I've said was an example. I'm talking about a type of person rather than the person mentioned.
How do you view team spirit?
How do you know that everybody was best buddies like Franks party people?
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| Team spirit IMO is what the team does when their backs are against the wall. Coming back from certain defeat - or as near as damn it.
I'd imagine Franks boys were all pretty close being as they were on the pop together at every given opportunity behaving like they were on 18 -30 holidays for all the town to see.
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| Agreed on the team spirit topic.
In terms of the Endacott team on the pop, I never had the good fortune to see that so i'll take your word for it. I'm assuming that by your insinuations, you witnessed this first hand? Or is it another case of 'I was reliably told by my best friends brothers boss who heard it in the betting shop'?
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| Quote: peterw "Agreed on the team spirit topic.
In terms of the Endacott team on the pop, I never had the good fortune to see that so i'll take your word for it. I'm assuming that by your insinuations, you witnessed this first hand? Or is it another case of 'I was reliably told by my best friends brothers boss who heard it in the betting shop'?'"
Real Widnes fans, i.e. not people posting from multiple IPs addresses and hiding their real identity by using multiple accounts, tend to know it was going on at the time. I'm surprised you don't remember the chicken incident!
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| Peter, I was once a regular down at The Vue bar et al. The party boys were evident for all to see.
Misili Manu - and some people slag Scott Yates off - jeez!!
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| I remember all the rumours but didnt tend to give them much notice. You'll have to let me into the 'chicken incident'.
and Manu? wasnt he the Usain Bolt of his generation?
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| Quote: richardviking "For a bit of fun, pick your Vikings players who you would sign for our Super League squad if we were to get there in 2012. Bear in mind that it's two years away, so some youngsters may have developed, while some of the older heads may not be up to it. And please no trolling!
For meSteve Pickersgill - If he regains his fitness fully next year, and gets to top form, he could be a good squad player for us by 2012. Has big game experience with Warrington and it cannot be stressed highly enough how important that is.
Danny Hulme - Could be a mainstay in the Vikings side by next year. I wouldn't go with Thackeray and him at 6 and 7 immediately, but he could force his way into the long-term reckoning.
Ben Kavanagh - Has the potential to become a player who will attract the interest of some of the best sides in the country.
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Dave Allen - A quality player and his ban may be a blessing in the sense his career may go on longer now.
Anthony Mullally - Will need the chance to prove himself before being taken to SL.
Tom Wood-Hulme - See Mullally!
Dave Houghton and Dean Thompson - Wouldn't write them off and it'd be good to see how they progress. Even if they're not quite SL standard by 2012, maybe Widnes shouldn't release them and loan them out.'"
Can I add, on a slightly seperate issue, that I think this is why he is'nt playing in SL anymore.
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| How many games did he actually play for Warrington 1st team?
He is still a relative youngster and was certainly only a kid when playing for warrington so I'm not sure how much 'big game experience' he would have picked up.
He wouldn't have been a major player in their side would he?
Not knocking the lad, but surely you only pick up 'big game experience' by playing a major part?
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