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Quote: Vikingluke "im lovin disgusted. theyve lost me now! goodbye vikings'"

Did you seriously expect anything other than a long, hard first season in SL? Show you are a true supporter, dig in and grin and bear it. Widnes have three years to get up to speed and they may need all of them to become really competitive.

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Not exactly living up to your pre-season pledge of showing your neighbours 'whose number 1 in Cheshire' so far are you lads?

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Quote: Vikingluke "im lovin disgusted. theyve lost me now! goodbye vikings'"

Goodbye!

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Quote: Vikingluke "im lovin disgusted. theyve lost me now! goodbye vikings'"

Round 3 from your first year in super league? One team you played being Huddersfield are a very good side? Calm down...

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



2006 we were bottom and our attendances went up. The fans grew a mentality and we were all in it together. I suggest you Windes fans do the same.

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Quote: Odem "2006 we were bottom and our attendances went up. The fans grew a mentality and we were all in it together. I suggest you Windes fans do the same.'"


Mate i was disappointed when we took Betts on for another 2 years after terrible coaching in the Championship.We are very flat,bad kicking game, and cant tackle.Fitness could also be better.Do not expect miracles, but Wakey are virtually from scratch and are doing better than our e.

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Quote: Vikingluke "im lovin disgusted. theyve lost me now! goodbye vikings'"


Can't beat a staunch Widnes "supporter",we knew we were in for a tough time 1st season back.
Proper supporters will be there again next week ! Ta-Ta icon_wave.gif

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As an outsider looking in, Widnes need to do 2 things very quickly;

1. replace Betts with a coach with a more experienced and succesful track record... not Paul Cullen. Brian Noble maybe?

2. dispose of the person/s responsible for player recruitment. Some of your signings have been poorly thought out.

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from a neutral who was there yesterday, the biggest problem was the fact that most of your tackling was above waste high, nobody was interested in going for the legs, and when you have a player like Feka running at you, you need at least one person to go for the legs.

When Ah Van looked injured, I was suprised no Salford player ran at him, instead they seemed to still target the other wing.

You did show some good signs though so get the basics right and good luck for the rest of the season.

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You need to get Brian Noble in ASAP, let him clear out some of the things that are obviously holding you back and to appoint his own backroom staff.

Your too inexperienced in key areas at your club, i'm not being funny here but that squad thats been assembled by Dennis Betts/Paul Cullen is simply awful, Brian Noble did a great job at Celtic Crusaders in a similar situation, he put a squad together in basically just a couple of months that was very competetive given what he had to work with.

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I dont think Widnes can/will move on whilst the owner remains loyal to Paul Cullen. The changes that need to be made wont happen whilst Cullen is Director of Rugby or whatever his role is.

Betts was never going to be the ticket for the job required. A Brian Noble type replacement wont entertain the Widnes coaching job whilst Cullen is meddling in the background.

Unfortunately its going to be up to the owner to make some very hard decisions.

As much as I like Cullen he isnt what Widnes need, likewise Denis Betts. Recruitment has been predictably poor, the signing of Jon Clarke as captain (probably on big money) smacks of jobs for the boys by Cullen. Dont get me wrong, Clarke can do a job for Widnes but he certainly shouldnt be classed as a major key player. I have said before that Pickersgill is nowhere near a SL player and I cant understand the decision to give him a SL contract.

I hope Widnes make the changes asap as SL needs a strong competitive Widnes team not a laughing stock.

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Quote: Colin_Fishwick "I dont think Widnes can/will move on whilst the owner remains loyal to Paul Cullen. The changes that need to be made wont happen whilst Cullen is Director of Rugby or whatever his role is.

Betts was never going to be the ticket for the job required. A Brian Noble type replacement wont entertain the Widnes coaching job whilst Cullen is meddling in the background.

Unfortunately its going to be up to the owner to make some very hard decisions.

As much as I like Cullen he isnt what Widnes need, likewise Denis Betts. Recruitment has been predictably poor, the signing of Jon Clarke as captain (probably on big money) smacks of jobs for the boys by Cullen. Dont get me wrong, Clarke can do a job for Widnes but he certainly shouldnt be classed as a major key player. I have said before that Pickersgill is nowhere near a SL player and I cant understand the decision to give him a SL contract.

I hope Widnes make the changes asap as SL needs a strong competitive Widnes team not a laughing stock.'"


Paul Cullen may have his faults but player recruitment isn't one of them. Almost all the players he brought to Warrington have turned out to be excellent signings, including the likes of Mick Monaghan, Louis Anderson, Henry Fa'Fili, Matt King, Chris Bridge and Simon Grix, to name but a few. PC's shortcoming was that he could never get the best out of this talent. You probably do need a better coach than Betts, but you have three years ( or at least two ) to steadily build. Right now, there's not much atttraction for a successful coach to come to Widnes - improve over a season or so and you'd look a much better bet.

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Im not too sure who was pulling the strings at warrington.

Wasnt Andrew Johns responsible for attracting the likes of Monaghan, King etc to Warrington.

Fairplay though if he was responsible for Bridge and Grix.

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PC was responsible for the recruitment of the vast majority of players in the Warrington squad. Nothing wrong with Cull. You've achieved your initial aim by being back in SL. No-one said it was going to be easy. It's roll up sleeves and fight it out time.

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