I know what the rule is and the ball was passed forward, momentum or not. from a visual POV the hands should be presented backwards or at least in line when passing (though not always an accurate indicator)
what you can measure is how fast the ball was passed, any rotation & at what angle, the relative direction/speed of both players, wind speed and that would be how you relatively accurately judge a forward pass. It was a metre forward in relation to how fast both players were running forward (or not in the case of the passer)
But considering your smart-ass comment you'd know that already

Irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer, in the instant the ball leaves the hands. It doesn't matter if he passes it slow or fast


Irrelevant. It doesn't matter if rotates not at all, or like a pulsar.


Not relevant, the only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer. The angle could be anything, depending which way he is facing, which way he is moving (if at all), but it doesn't matter


Not relevant. The only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer. His speed doesn't matter, nor does the speed of the other player.


Not relevant. The only relevant moment is the instant the ball leaves the hands. Any effect caused after that by the wind acting on the ball is not taken into account, if the ball was legally passed not forwards, and then a sudden gust of wind blew it forward 50 metres, that is still not a forward pass.


So QED, it actually wouldn't.

Who cares Castleford where better overall. The try should have been checked on the video, as did look well forward from the stands. I was in a very good postion too.

No point in checking for a forward pass on the screen - it isn't done in RL, but is in RU. It SHOULD be in RL too and kicking the ball to dead should be like RU too - hand over from where the ball was kicked. Not having a go at Cas here because we were doing the same in the first half, but where is the skill in hoofing the ball 60+ yards into dead so you can pin the opposition in their own 20? Boring tactic which will kill the game if not checked.

QED, you don't know what you're talking about and it is all relevant in showing accurately whether the ball was passed 'forward' or not (though i realise this would never happen anyways).
Of course just visually looking and assessing the relative speed of the passer against the receiver (hence why the ball travels forward and isn't a forward pass) is the best way but understanding of why from fans & officials, (players to a lesser degree) means we would not be in a position of 'forwaaaard' being shouted by fans when it isn't and referees giving forward passes when they previously haven't (despite the obvious hand position clue)

But I'm sure you're well versed in the science of such to debunk all that properly rather than your inaacurate ramblings. The pass is acted out by the passer, any spin/rotation/moment from when it leaves the players hands impacts as to whether the pass relative to the catcher has gone forward..If you don't want to accept that then that's up to you..

Once again, and just for clarity, a pass is forward based on the angle it leaves the players hands. The concept is simple and Girmmy and FerociousAardvark are correct and it cannot be measured in metres. When the ref fails to see the pass as it leaves then judging gets complicated by the factors mentioned by KnockersbumpMKII. Let's not get confused and fall out arguing about different things. From the Rugby Onion... www.youtube.com/watch?v=box08lq9ylg

Once again, and just for clarity, a pass is forward based on the angle it leaves the players hands. The concept is simple and Girmmy and FerociousAardvark are correct and it cannot be measured in metres. When the ref fails to see the pass as it leaves then judging gets complicated by the factors mentioned by KnockersbumpMKII. Let's not get confused and fall out arguing about different things. From the Rugby Onion... www.youtube.com/watch?v=box08lq9ylg

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