Because everyone knows Tottenham Hotspur are known as The Saints. Well, in Warrington that is, but the locals still point up when a plane flies over Warrington.

PMSL, you come across as a right mensa candidate.

Spurs sing "Oh when the Spurs (Long Pause) go marching in" sung slowly then they quicken it up, yours was always sung the standard way "Oh when the saints, go marching in" bla bla bla with no pause until fairly recently when you nicked the style of singing it off Spurs fans.

You are a top who talks crap.Taxi load my and what expect when bottom of the league and expecting a kicking.What score you say win by now?50 plus? Anyway hope Saints and Wigan dick you lot as you seem so arrogant as fans.

You lot will never have a Gold Star.

At least none of my family caught pox from a Yank from Burtonwood. Catch you later Dubya!

Spot on Doc we do very well for a Town of 55000 and if Widnes had 190,000 in the Town of course attendances would be better.We need to expand to Towns like Runcorn,Frodsham and South Liverpool to get extra support.I live out of the town and support Widnes.So if times by 3 our average be 18000 fans plus on theory.

You a Saints fan now Doc?

Widnes have never really attracted huge gates Paul,apart from the occasional Challenge Cup Tie,League Derby and visits from the Kangaroos.Our best average in the Seventies was 7500,in the Eighties 8600.I think these days more and more local youngsters are drawn to Old Trafford and Anfield than the Stobart Stadium.Fair point about the Cas support,they really do have a strong and loyal fan base for the size of the town.Not making excuses but there is no Premiership football in the vicinity compared to about 4 or 5 clubs round here.

Spot on mate and no Premiership teams in the Castleford area.I have been watching Widnes since 9 years old and now 37.So Paul I do know what I am talking about.Been out of top flight for 6 years so will take time to build support like Castleford.The thing with Castleford they have also not spent much time in the lower league to lose fan base.Once in playoffs and better we can improve fans.

That's a good point Off The Cuff,about Cas not spending much time out of the top flight.I think we averaged around 4500 in 2007 when we had a good championship team containing Smith,Nanyn,Moran,Wilkes and Beswick but after failing to win promotion that support dropped off in the next few years.People just got fed up of seeing poor standard rugby with no prospect of promotion due to licensing.

No premiership football in Cas but Leeds who have a larger home support than alot of the Premiership a few miles away ?

As for Widnes, I always remember as a teenager Naughton Park being full. But then I suppose it was an old stadium with quite a small capacity so yeah, point taken. Out of interest, whats Saints average home gate in relation to the towns population ?

Not sure about Saints mate but the last time Naughton Park was full it had the best part of 19000 there for the Championship decider V Wigan in 1989.