Difficult really, most are assuming it will happen against Warrington, but as it's the last game of the season then there's a good chance that it will be a nothing game for us meaning a slightly lower crowd. But let's say optimistically that we're pushing for a play-off place?

I think unless we get playoff rugby league then we won't hit over 10000. I'd love us to however we never hit it once in 4 years of trying so I'm not sure too much will have changed. Only time will tell

I'd say two things have changed since Widnes in SL v 0.1...

The number of fans following Warrington due to their successes and
The marketing machine at Widnes. We haven't seen how they are going to market our SL games yet but I think it will be a bit better than the attempts of the board we had when last in SL. Remember we had nearly 8,000 for a game against Salford in the championship.

Although 2000 of them were kids and parents on free tickets it's a fantastic effort. You could be right about Warrington, I'd expect them to fill the west stand and have a fair few in the east. I think it comes down to those who pay on the gate and how we are doing come September.

Anybody know how many strongholds we've sold? Last i heard it was just under 4000. Can't really see many people wanting to join between November january. As tight as it sounds I wouldn't pay twenty pound a month for nothing, I can see a slight rush to get them at the start of February.

There was and probably still is around 3,800 and I reckon you're right about the numbers taking them up between now and the end of the season but I reckon a fair few might convert as the season goes on. Unlike a season ticket you can obviously join Stronghold at any stage in the season without really being financially punished and I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't regular incentives for people to join throughout the season.

Warrington is a much bigger game for 'Vikings' fans than the St Helens game so i'm not too sure why one or two of you think you'll get a bigger crowd when you play Saints.

And for the record i support neither club.

Possibly right there Brucey.

And for the record......you are a bellend.