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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



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Quote: Pepe "I was under the impression that all Championship clubs were allowed to spend £300k, unless they had previously been able to show a £1 Million turnover, whereby they'd be able to spend up to £400k?

How much had Leigh spent to?

I didn't know that there was even a 50% rule in place. I thought they'd scrapped that years ago in favour of a live cap system?[/quote]'"
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SL only that one isn't it , if not , its not very ' live ' if it takes 9 months before somebody susses out your over it icon_lol.gif

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: Starbug "SL only that one isn't it , if not , its not very ' live ' if it takes 9 months before somebody susses out your over it'"

I wish you'd learn to use the quote button properly. eusa_think.gif

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Those where my thoughts Pepe. I thought cap was based on previous years figures!

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Quote: J20 "Those where my thoughts Pepe. I thought cap was based on previous years figures!'"


I thought it was too , but I had heard 40% of previous seasons turnover , with an extra 10% if you can satisfy the rfl , re fundin

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: bulldog bob "I thought it was too , but I had heard 40% of previous seasons turnover , with an extra 10% if you can satisfy the rfl , re fundin'"


So, basically, it's still Leigh's own fault, because they gambled that they would be able to make up the extra 10% and, I would assume, submitted some sort of documentary evidence to the RFL, and fell short.

That still boarders very much on cheating, imo. It is a ridiculous way to run a sport too. The RFL really need to change that rule. Unscrupulous clubs can clearly gamble on this, and put the more honest clubs at a major disadvantage.

No wonder Leigh are not contesting it.

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Quote: Pepe "So, basically, it's still Leigh's own fault, because they gambled that they would be able to make up the extra 10% and, I would assume, submitted some sort of documentary evidence to the RFL, and fell short.

That still boarders very much on cheating, imo. It is a ridiculous way to run a sport too. The RFL really need to change that rule. Unscrupulous clubs can clearly gamble on this, and put the more honest clubs at a major disadvantage.

No wonder Leigh are not contesting it.'"


Yes it is our fault , not disagreeing there , all part of our LSV nightmare as well , the SC is turnover relevant , we struggle to get turnover with no food,booze sales , and no advertising revenue , take the LSV s share out of our sales before we get them further cuts back , it is potentially realistic that say Batley have more turnover than us despite averaging half our attendances

I'd suggest the reason we aren't contesting it is that at the moment we'd rather have a points deduction than a fine

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[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



Quote: Starbug "Yes it is our fault , not disagreeing there , all part of our LSV nightmare as well , the SC is turnover relevant , we struggle to get turnover with no food,booze sales , and no advertising revenue , take the LSV s share out of our sales before we get them further cuts back , it is potentially realistic that say Batley have more turnover than us despite averaging half our attendances

I'd suggest the reason we aren't contesting it is that at the moment we'd rather have a points deduction than a fine'"


No, it's got all to do with the LSV. AT, and the rest of the Leigh board, knew full-well about the lack of other revenue streams the club would have even before they moved in there. Despite this, they still submitted evidence to the RFL that they would be able to make up the 10% shortfall. Clearly, as you admit, the lack of alternative income, via food and beer sales, &c, would actually have made this nigh on impossible to achieve. Then why, in Hell's name, tell the RFL that they could increase their income, when they clearly couldn't?

They were trying to get an advantage that they just didn't deserve or have any right to. I call that cheating.

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Quote: Starbug "Just trying educate you my son , or is it because you have figured out that what you put is in fact impossible ?
You need to ring the club up, you have a mathematical acumen that Leigh Centurions do not.

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Quote: Pepe "So, basically, it's still Leigh's own fault, because they gambled that they would be able to make up the extra 10% and, I would assume, submitted some sort of documentary evidence to the RFL, and fell short.

That still boarders very much on cheating, imo. It is a ridiculous way to run a sport too. The RFL really need to change that rule. Unscrupulous clubs can clearly gamble on this, and put the more honest clubs at a major disadvantage.

No wonder Leigh are not contesting it.'"


I presume squad builder monies can be used as an extra , as at our team anyway they are run totally seperate from club by BISSA, so are not part of turnover , presume RFL would deem this acceptable , without increasin income in a recession , but I am just guessin Pepe

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Quote: Pepe "No, it's got love all to do with the LSV. AT, and the rest of the Leigh board, knew full-well about the lack of other revenue streams the club would have even before they moved in there. Despite this, they still submitted evidence to the RFL that they would be able to make up the 10% shortfall. Clearly, as you admit, the lack of alternative income, via food and beer sales, &c, would actually have made this nigh on impossible to achieve. Then why, in Hell's name, tell the RFL that they could increase their income, when they clearly couldn't?

They were trying to get an advantage that they just didn't deserve or have any right to. I call that cheating.'"


Turnover not income

But fair enough if you see it as cheating , you are entitled to that opinion

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: rufustanner "You need to ring the club up, you have a mathematical acumen that Leigh Centurions do not.'"


Yes I have tried to explain to them , when all they talk about is cutting costs , rather than increasing turnover and income , but there you go , they know best , or not

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Quote: Pepe "No, it's got love all to do with the LSV. AT, and the rest of the Leigh board, knew full-well about the lack of other revenue streams the club would have even before they moved in there. Despite this, they still submitted evidence to the RFL that they would be able to make up the 10% shortfall. Clearly, as you admit, the lack of alternative income, via food and beer sales, &c, would actually have made this nigh on impossible to achieve. Then why, in Hell's name, tell the RFL that they could increase their income, when they clearly couldn't?

They were trying to get an advantage that they just didn't deserve or have any right to. I call that cheating.'"


In the recorded part of the link thats has been put on the leigh MB Milward says the reason weve been deducted points is because we couldnt pay a bill due to AT businesses going under and he payed the bills.
If iv'e understood it correctly then thats not really cheating .

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: bulldog bob "I presume squad builder monies can be used as an extra , as at our team anyway they are run totally seperate from club by BISSA, so are not part of turnover , presume RFL would deem this acceptable , without increasin income in a recession , but I am just guessin Pepe'"


Squad builder is included in SC , if it isn't then things have changed , it is also included in turnover as a donation

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: j.c "In the recorded part of the link thats has been put on the leigh MB Milward says the reason weve been deducted points is because we couldnt pay a bill due to AT businesses going under and he payed the bills.
If iv'e understood it correctly then thats not really cheating .'"


Strange one that jc , this is from last years income , not this years

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