he wasnt making a point, he was asking a question. a question based upon a premise that is faulty. Neeeeeext!

Even stranger, Leythers like it too!

We're not ready for SL yet, good luck Mutants

for gods sake,widnes have ticked all the boxes and deserve to be in soooper dooper league.I hope they do well,they should have been promoted last time.good luck from a life long leyther.

When have Widnes fans ever said the system is unfair??

From the day your application was rejected last time,to the day before you were granted a licence this time around.

hardly fair, We haven't once said that we'd prefer the franchise decision over P&R. I have seen numerous amounts of times that other widnes fans have openly said they wish for P&R to come back, But we don't make the rules. We have abided by the rules set and are just happy that we have been rewarded with a license. I would even go to the extent of shocking you and saying that licensing is unfair :O. At the end of the day, P&R provides competition, and Franchising provides stability. Unfair or not, there isn't one little thing we can do about it.

Your boring now so jog on and be more constructive.Leigh where awful a few years ago and where going to be relegated from the Championship.Then got lucky with Donny going into administration.Things can change if get right coach and recruitment.We will have 1.65 million to spend and not £300,000.Even if Leigh got promoted they would not take over half the team into Superleague and that is a fact.Alot of good players in the championship want to be part time because have a great job outside rugby.Anyway i am sick of people coming on here who do not know about the Championship.If you read the positive posts from Championship clubs you will see most Leigh fans wishing Widnes the best of luck.

all i can say is GO HUDDERSFIELD! your bunch of 'superstars' didnt put up much of anything in the way of real opposition without Briers to hold their hands.

Do you not think that Widnes will not make any signings before the start of next season?

You are an ignoramus,- look it up if you do not know what it means.

You do not have to be a club in a larger town to attract big names --- Jonathan Davies, Martin Offiah, Kurt Sorensen spring to mind immediately.

How have Warrington done on their last two outings?

Most Widnes fans believe that promotion a relegation should come back, subject to certain basic requirements. When Widnes -- who had been the most successful club in the past two decades -- were denied entry to SL in favour of clubs such as Oldham, Workington, and Warrington, many of the game's pundits were disappointed. When they did get in for three years they were removed to make way for Catalans, and did not get relegated.

The RFL brought in the licensing system and insisted on certain criteria to get into SL and were prepared to exclude clubs who did not meet that criteria, and clubs had to live with that. That is why Warrington now play at the Halliwell Jones Stadium and not Wilderspool.

Widnes met the criteria and have gained a licence.

Two Challenge Cup wins, even back to back ones, still do not make Warrington as big a club than some of the others outside SL, who have more knowledgeable supporters [if you are an example of a Warrington Supporter] and I will instance Halifax, Leigh, Featherstone, and Swinton.

When Widnes were acquiring those sort of players in the late 80s they did it by spending money they didn't have. That's why we regard the success Widnes had back then as false.

What happened when your financial difficulties kicked in shortly after and you had to get rid of all those players? As a club you sunk without trace.

I stand by what i said,even in Super League Widnes will seriously struggle to attract big name,quality players. An over the hill Lockyer has already binned you off.

Apart from Wigan,name me any clubs in England that are bigger than the mighty Wire.

All of them, in my eyes.