You made a statement I responded, in a not too biased way, I thought these threads were meant to have feedback.I mentioned the long retired Hulmes as a dig at the fact that you will still bring the Smith incident up in many years time,but as you say the thread is about memories so fair enough.

As a side issue now that Leigh have no noted dirty players in their team, will Widnes fans still accuse us of being a team of thugs next season or allow the new clean open rugby team that we will be, an even break.

Unfortunately I couldn't be at that infamous game at Leyth. Does anyone know where I might be able to get a copy of that game from?

I'd like to make my own observations and maybe dredge the past up .

Seriously if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be grateful.

Cheers mate, much appreciated.

Talk about a de-rail.

I remember another peice of thuggery by leigh in 2006 i think it was then biby headbutted hulse of the ball

Think he got banned for it too, even though the player on the receiving end (Paul Medley?) said it hadn't happened, not even accidentally, as he wore contact lenses and these would have been dislodged by a finger in the eye.

The Hulmes were dirty buggers - all knees and elbows - but not thugs. Opponents might wake up the next day with ribs bruised to hell but they weren't in any danger of eating through a straw for days or missing half a season with a broken cheekbone.

I remember reading an interview in Open Rugby with a leading player from another top team (Leeds?) saying that the Hulmes dished it out but they took the same stick too and never moaned. There was nothing cowardly about the way they played the game.

BEST

NFP Final win.

Spanking Leeds three times (and one in SA) in one season.

After the terrible start to the 04 season, becoming the first team to beat Wire in the HJ. Nicky Royle > Darryl Cardiss.

WORST

Relegation against Warrington.

Grand Final against Cas.

License announcement day.

What about the time Smith blatantly came late into Heremaia's chest with his knees in a tackle?

I think it's fair to say both sides have had their fair share of 'dirty' players over the year and people could reel off all sorts of tales about each others teams.

Richard Moore it was who butted Gary Hulse.

Yes it was so bad that the 'magic sponge' fixed him and he was back on in the second half.

Glad to see Bibey back, some how i dont think he will be dishing any beatings to our current pack.

Getting beat 7-6 by Castleford on the second to last game when Adam Hughes dropped it over the line, thats up there

Adam Hughes