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Quote: Gary High "In fear of sounding like a broken record - At least it is our own ground to develop and not some Council owned ground. We get 100% of the proceeds on match days. It doesn't take long to sort a ground and what would be the point without a tick in the box. If we win the GF then expect to see things happen at Barrow regarding the development of Craven Park.'"


On the downside that means that YOU have to pay to do it up?

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Quote: Gary High "Cullen was in charge when we spanked you home and Away myh friend. That is a Bulls*it comment.'"


Didnt win this one though did ya lad.




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Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "Didnt win this one though did ya lad.


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icon_biggrin.gif how many more times, Widnes win when it matters icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Gary High "Cullen was in charge when we spanked you home and Away myh friend. That is a Bulls*it comment.'"


As posted Cullen inherited an inadequate squad. If we had enjoyed the kind of preseason Halifax and Barrow enjoyed this season's story would be entirely different and we would have romped it.

Fact!!

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: In EnemyTerritory "As posted Cullen inherited an inadequate squad. If we had enjoyed the kind of preseason Halifax and Barrow enjoyed this season's story would be entirely different and we would have romped it.

Fact!![/quote]

Bollox , thats the only fact relevant to your post

You cannot presume that Mr goblydygook will recruit any better than anybody else

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Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "Didnt win this one though did ya lad.


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Not really much come back on that one is there Gary icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Starbug "

Bollox , thats the only fact relevant to your post

You cannot presume that Mr goblydygook will recruit any better than anybody else'"


Can and will!

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Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "Didnt win this one though did ya lad.


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Nope, but even you know our team that day was inadequate. Best team won on that day & I wont argue with that.

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Quote: In EnemyTerritory "As posted Cullen inherited an inadequate squad. If we had enjoyed the kind of preseason Halifax and Barrow enjoyed this season's story would be entirely different and we would have romped it.

Fact!!'"


Bulls*it my friend. You have a decent squad now and still don't romp it !!

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Quote: J20 "On the downside that means that YOU have to pay to do it up?'"


You are right, But when we spend OUR money on OUR stadium we get ALL the benefits and income from it - Not the Council. Im sure that after this years season our Council will help in the Re Development of Craven Park. Funding from elsewhere shouldn't be a problem to get hold of either.

And we will still own Craven Park NOT Rent it icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Gary High "You are right, But when we spend OUR money on OUR stadium we get ALL the benefits and income from it - Not the Council. Im sure that after this years season our Council will help in the Re Development of Craven Park. Funding from elsewhere shouldn't be a problem to get hold of either.

And we will still own Craven Park NOT Rent it
You own a dump that will not get Barrow a licence. It will need massive investment to bring it up to standard. At this moment in time, I can't see that kind of money simply rolling in.

Stadiums, even new ones, cost an awful lot of money to run and maintain. Very few make money, most will be a drain. HBC take that hit. All the policing and stewarding costs etc have been out-sourced. As long as you have a good rental agreement, and we now do, the club will prosper.

I'm sorry, but you are nowhere near being in a position to boast. You're just not.

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My opinion on who could make the jump up is fairly simple

Only widnes have everything that is needed

It would be great if a club like Barrow did manage it , but even with Des's support they are a long way short of SL , and even a refurbed stadium is not all that is needed

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Quote: Gary High "In fear of sounding like a broken record - At least it is our own ground to develop and not some Council owned ground. We get 100% of the proceeds on match days. It doesn't take long to sort a ground and what would be the point without a tick in the box. If we win the GF then expect to see things happen at Barrow regarding the development of Craven Park.'"


So you don't think DJ will bother if you don't win the GF?

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Quote: Pepe "You own a dump that will not get Barrow a licence. It will need massive investment to bring it up to standard. At this moment in time, I can't see that kind of money simply rolling in.

Stadiums, even new ones, cost an awful lot of money to run and maintain. Very few make money, most will be a drain. HBC take that hit. All the policing and stewarding costs etc have been out-sourced. As long as you have a good rental agreement, and we now do, the club will prosper.

I'm sorry, but you are nowhere near being in a position to boast. You're just not.'"



We could easily get a home equity loan, various grants, Council offered interest free loan, sports council grants, Fans CP2 donation schemes etc.

Momentun is difficult to stop.

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Quote: mick wilson "Momentum is difficult to stop.'"


Castleford, Salford and Wakefield currently have a 5 year momentum ............ and counting. Momentum is difficult to start it would seem.

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