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My understanding of TOC's role is that the coach tells him who he wants, Terry does all the negotiations and does the contract side of things.

Terry also looks after the player welfare off the field, leaving the coach to concentrate purely on the field.

Not that difficult to understand is it?

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Apparantly the club officials have already said at the curry evening at the Crown that it was McCormack who was selecting the players for this season. Until SM or somebody from the club comes out and says otherwise then surely we have to believe it.

Regardless of who signed the players, pre-season we all pretty much agreed that we had a squad capable of topping the table. Probably 1 or 2 props short, but I think we expected the class of certain players to shine through. Its criminal the way the prop situation was allowed to happen, but IMO the lack of cutting edge on the opponent line and the general lack of killer instinct has surprised everyone.

I'm not sure where the problem lies, the fact we're struggling thorugh games and halfbacks are not always producing their best form could be excused by the fact we don't have a very big pack. On the other hand, when we're camped on the opposition line and we still can't score because we look slow and predictable - this cannot be excused by the prop situation. So the only conclusion can be that a few of the players we expected to be top class have not produced the goods so far and this has not been helped by the fact that a) we've had tons of injuries and b) the forwards have struggled to get on top in games.

We seem to be getting players back form injury now and some players are starting to show what they can do, so we might not be that far away from being a decent side. If we can play ourselves into a bit of form and if we can bring in a decent prop (probably unlikely) we might just start to look like contenders.

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McCormack signed these players because they have played well in the past either against us or for us and when the club signed these players in the off season we were all excited because they were good players and big name signings. McCormack got sacked after the oldham game which we lost because we only had 12 men on the field but my point is these are mccormack signings which i think he would off got the best out of given more time especially in attack. cullen has taken charge now who i fully back and given the right time and a chance to bring in his own players for next season should bring us success. hopefully he can turn it around this season but if not lets hope we get it right for next season.

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Re your post V4E that has pretty much been my assessment of things as it currently stands...
We identified a problem with the pack but on evidence we haven't really suffered as a result. With Morrison and Bannister to come back in this area we will be stronger and the signing of a recognised prop would give us that extra something.
We are making it to the opposition's line but that is where we falter.
I keep thinking that we are in many ways like Cas in their last season in the 1st Division. They stumbled along whilst Brough was having a bit of a mare early doors and then something clicked with him and their season turned around.
If we can get our players to click and play as we know they can and have seen them play then I think we really will go from strength to strength.

It's becoming a bit of a slogan for me but a little more guile is what is needed..

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Quote: vikings 4 ever "Apparantly the club officials have already said at the curry evening at the Crown that it was McCormack who was selecting the players for this season. Until SM or somebody from the club comes out and says otherwise then surely we have to believe it.

Regardless of who signed the players, pre-season we all pretty much agreed that we had a squad capable of topping the table. Probably 1 or 2 props short, but I think we expected the class of certain players to shine through. Its criminal the way the prop situation was allowed to happen, but IMO the lack of cutting edge on the opponent line and the general lack of killer instinct has surprised everyone.

I'm not sure where the problem lies, the fact we're struggling thorugh games and halfbacks are not always producing their best form could be excused by the fact we don't have a very big pack. On the other hand, when we're camped on the opposition line and we still can't score because we look slow and predictable - this cannot be excused by the prop situation. So the only conclusion can be that a few of the players we expected to be top class have not produced the goods so far and this has not been helped by the fact that a) we've had tons of injuries and b) the forwards have struggled to get on top in games.

We seem to be getting players back form injury now and some players are starting to show what they can do, so we might not be that far away from being a decent side. If we can play ourselves into a bit of form and if we can bring in a decent prop (probably unlikely) we might just start to look like contenders.'"



To an extent you're right, about us not being able to turn pressure on the opposition line into points, being a problem. But we do tend to run, our often smaller forwards, in to bigger opposition forwards under the posts. They are dealt with easily and we are kept out. If we had a couple of big yard dogs running at them, we may actually break through once in a while, or make the opposition bring in an extra man from outside to deal with them, thus creating space out wide for our backs to exploit.

Have you also noticed that we haven't managed to tire out many, if any, of our part-time opponents? In fact many of them have finished the game looking as strong, if not stronger!

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I'm sick of this Full time/part time argument being raised everytime we lose a game. The difference is quite clearly marginal. The vast majority of the players in this league are very fit semi-professional athletes. Just because they are "part-time" does not mean they sit around all day eating burgers and scratching their arris. Many of the teams have a number of players who are just as "Full time" as ours are and I am led to believe that a number of our players are not completely full time anyway. There is a limit to how much fitness training can be beneficial anyway. The "part-timers" will be doing more than enough to provide them with the stamina to see them through 80 minutes of Rugby. It would be an insult to them to suggest they don't.

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