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Quote: 1977 "After watching Widnes since 1969,i have seen all the glory years,watched them in the dark days of not getting in the Murdoch league first time around,Canal Street,losing two grand finals,going bust,and the darkest day of all,welcoming a failed born and bred w**e coach to be boss of our ONCE great club.My god a dark day for our club.We have one more stab at getting back into the big time and we have put our trust in a failed w**e.

Here we go.....

We put our trust in a former NZ coach--where did that get us?

We put our trust in a man who guided Wigan to the WCC--where did that get us??

We put our trust in a man who had reached 2 lower league GF's--where did that get us?

Dont know who you were expecting but give Paul Cullen a chance.

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Not wholly overjoyed to be honest. Not because he's a Wire but because of his record at Wire. Wire's problems however may well go beyond Cullen and the only thing we can do is welcome him and give him a chance. I still remain to be convinced that this side and our new coach will perform as anticipated.

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Quote: 1977 "After watching Widnes since 1969,i have seen all the glory years,watched them in the dark days of not getting in the Murdoch league first time around,Canal Street,losing two grand finals,going bust,and the darkest day of all,welcoming a failed born and bred w**e coach to be boss of our ONCE great club.My god a dark day for our club.We have one more stab at getting back into the big time and we have put our trust in a failed w**e.
better than some aussie though bringing all his mates over with him

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Quote: bUsTiNyAbALLs "Not wholly overjoyed to be honest. Not because he's a Wire but because of his record at Wire. Wire's problems however may well go beyond Cullen and the only thing we can do is welcome him and give him a chance. I still remain to be convinced that this side and our new coach will perform as anticipated.'"


If it wasn't for Cullen Wire would still be a mid to bottom table side. He turned them around into a top 6 side. Likes to play expansive rugby and with the players we have im more than pleased with his appointment.

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Quote: danavvo "better than some aussie though bringing all his mates over with him'"
Don't be shocked if he brings all his failed w**e mates with him instead. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: 1977 "Don't be shocked if he brings all his failed w**e mates with him instead.
He started sending them three years ago.

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Quote: getdownmonkeyman "He started sending them three years ago.'"


Ha ha Monkeyman, Gaskell has been oustanding for us and Toa Balboa is a good centre at this level. Varkulis also ex wire is going well.

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Quote: 1977 "So were does it say that we all have to sing from the same sheet? It's my opinion,and it's a case of thanks but no thanks.'"


Vic King has it right on the other forum...
If he fails then we as a club have failed so why don't we try something novel and support this move rather than look forward to the 'I told you so opportunity..'

It's upset some supporters but in the main because he is a former wire.. and the word former is of the upmost importance.
As for his record... if we fail as Warrington failed then I will be ecstatic because it means that we will be up and challenging in SL and falling at the last hurdle of winning something. At the moment the prospect of that is very enticing.

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Quote: In EnemyTerritory "Vic King has it right on the other forum...
If he fails then we as a club have failed so why don't we try something novel and support this move rather than look forward to the 'I told you so opportunity..'

It's upset some supporters but in the main because he is a former wire.. and the word former is of the upmost importance.
As for his record... if we fail as Warrington failed then I will be ecstatic because it means that we will be up and challenging in SL and falling at the last hurdle of winning something. At the moment the prospect of that is very enticing.'"
I am not trying to put forward an i told you so attitude if he fails, it's just a opinion of one very disapointed old school fan.I think you will find i am not alone too.

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Quote: In EnemyTerritory "Excellent post 1977. Just the encouragement anyone would want...
I agree - I know hes not everyone's 1st choice (including me), but now that he's been appointed, all we can do is give him the support and see how it goes.

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This is history. This is history. Right here. Right now. This is history. I thought it was Widnes? [quote="BIGAL1"]All games are winnable, whats hard to understand about that. Wakefield turn over a big club every season and i see no reason why Widnes can't do the same.[/quote]:7294.jpg



I was with you initially 1977 before the appointment, in fact if you knew me personally would be well aware of my stance with all things Wire. Widnesian through and through. If you came to my house you'd think you were in the Museum with all the Widnes stuff I have. icon_cool.gif

However, I think that if we want him to do well then we need to wipe the slate clean and judge him with performances on the pitch. If I am taking a narrow view all we need to do is reach win two semi-finals in a row since according to the "rules" (and I use that term liberally) the teams in the 2009 and 2010 finals are eligible for SL. I don't think 2011 final counts as the decison will have been made. (I stand corrected). Theoretically if we do that based on those "rules" then potentially there are only two other sides which can challenge us for an SL spot. Very much an elimination process on that basis.

Anyway, If I'm looking long term and doing a Paul Terzis (i.e. beyond icon_lol.gif ) he has attracted the Johns's of this world to SL (backed by money) and if he can do that when we get back in SL then I'm a happy bunny. I just hope that he has learnt from his mistakes as Warrington coach particulary on the discipline side. I'd be very worried if we brought Briers in, not a rumour just an opinion. He was always out on the in the Chapel House much to the annoyance of PC.

Like it or lump it we have him and the best we can do is give the man our support.

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Quote: In EnemyTerritory "
As for his record... if we fail as Warrington failed then I will be ecstatic '"
2008-6th
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Average of 6th position in 6 SL seasons.Not bad going that.

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Quote: GSF "2008-6th
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Average of 6th position in 6 SL seasons.Not bad going that.'"


I think we'd all be fairly happy with that in the short term GSF.. nice digging around!

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Quote: In EnemyTerritory "I think we'd all be fairly happy with that in the short term GSF.. nice digging around!'"


He's got to get us out of NL1 first!

I hope he goes well for us, christ knows we need a break now. I'm just not prepared to set myself up for another fall..

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