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| Quote: Twitch "You have no idea what position Leigh will be at in 3 years time,your unlikely quote may just be wishful thinking by then ![]()
Neither do you, but for a NL club to significantly increase their average gate by 1500 in 3 years, have significant success on the field and improve every other factor surrounding the franchise decision significantly is a hell of an ask.
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| Quote: St Andy's Land "As a totally disinterested party I must agree with IET. Widnes, not for the first time, were stitched up. When the results of the 'farce' of the franchises were made public, I posted an intention that my wife and I would make a point of visiting the Halton at least once this season, as a mark of solidarity with the bitterly disappointed Widnes fans. OK, so it will be just two more spectators for one game, but if more fair-minded people did the same it would give a lift to the board, the players and even the home-based fans. Looking over the preparations for all the clubs in the Championship I cannot see any finishing above Widnes. If, as I fully expect, the club does make the grand final, at least it will be considered for Super League in three year's time (assuming Lewis and his fellow conspirators don't move the goal posts.) We would like to wish all Widnes fans a good and successful season.'"
I was going to post something similar but since you said it so well, I'll just say ditto to all that! I've already visited Halton once this year and I'm hoping to get there again but as a neutral supporting Widnes. It's a fine stadium, a good team (I envy you your field kicker!) and besides all that, I want Widnes back in SL so I can abuse them from the terraces on a regular basis! (in the nicest possible way, obviously!) |
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Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot.
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I have nothing against another French side and would have accepted Toulose getting a franchise, as they have been around for 60 years and have built a good enough to compete in things (Semi Final one year) like the challenge cup.They wouldn't have as much Aussie due to proximity to the RL hotbed.
I am no longer bitter and got of it a while ago the only thing and that is the antipodeans. Surely there is at least a few English SL players excited at what is going down in Wales and the obvious let offs the club will get.
Yes I do find the fans can be bitter and certain VT Widnes Fans, no offense but fingers mainly, are getting into arguments with the keyboard warrior that is cru.So the rest of VT prats are thinking all Widnes fans are as annoying as him.The they will get on the back of any proper Widnes fans when they make a proper and debatable thread about expansion or franchises.
Anyway that is my two cents
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With the current financial crisis our omission from SL may prove to be a blessing in disguise - no huge wage bill etc.
A couple of the clubs have already asked for their sky money early and it will be interesting to see if the banks start pulling overdrafts etc We will see if Mr Lewis' claims about the solvency of SL clubs turns out to be true.
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Excuse my ignorance but have the RL actually stated that the SL will be increased from 14 clubs to 16 in 2012?I am not too confident of us getting a place if they do go for 16 but if it remains at 14 then we have no chance because,as they have already demonstrated,the RL will not kick out any existing 'franchises'.
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| Quote: GSF "Excuse my ignorance but have the RL actually stated that the SL will be increased from 14 clubs to 16 in 2012?I am not too confident of us getting a place if they do go for 16 but if it remains at 14 then we have no chance because,as they have already demonstrated,the RL will not kick out any existing 'franchises'.'"
No such guarantee.. but they did say that one side from the Championship will be promoted!! |
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| Quote: Starbug "Nope it's a council ' facility ' but Leighton Samuels has a long lease on the place [ which itself is quite valuable ]'"
He won't have the lease once it is sold as reported in the paper and I have heard it is a done deal and Crusaders will have to hire the ground from the soccer club and the Ravens. |
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| Quote: In EnemyTerritory "Jiffy D... it's a good post and like a couple of fans on here I think it's terrific that you don't feel any resentment about what happened..
I for one am still incredibly bitter about the whole thing and will be for some time. For me this was the latest in a long line of offences by the RFL against our club.
It's not about a god given right to have a SL place, it's about how the RFL carry out their agenda.
We were told that it would be a fair and transparent process for all 14 spots... Instead it was all done using a criteria that no-one was told about behind closed doors and all applications were simply summarised in a line or two which only further propagates the bad feeling.
Instead it was a safe opportunity for the RFL to promote an expansion team. Richard Lewis has so much as now admitted this in a quoted email on the TIW site.
It was a process in which cast iron financial guarantees were overlooked in favour of airy fairy promises about new grounds.
This is old ground mate but it's my thoughts on the matter and it won't change. My boycott of everything Superleague related remains in place and I won't miss it again this year. I am bitter but very excited about the championship competition this year and the squad that has been put in place.
I will not however go posting stuff anywhere else on these boards about other clubs unless it is defence of this club and also get a little bit irked when I see it. It only raises the heckles of the 'Richard Lewis Youth' that make up the expansionista on this site.
It was a farce and we will be subjected to it again in 2 years!!'"
I am incredibly bitter, and in total agreement with this excellent post. |
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| Quote: richardviking "Neither do you, but for a NL club to significantly increase their average gate by 1500 in 3 years, have significant success on the field and improve every other factor surrounding the franchise decision significantly is a hell of an ask.'"
I'm sorry but you really are totally underestimating Leigh, why do we have to improve every other factor, we got as many points as Widnes or only 1 less ,I can't rememberr exactly,but Widnes are not miles ahead of Leigh.
You got your fingers burned last time and whose to say it won't happen again.Lots could happen in 3 years and only a fool would believe they or anybody else has or has not a better chance of promotion.
Just enjoy the next 3 years you may have a better squad this year but after what I heard at the match on Sunday,watch this space,Leigh are definately going to be in the fight when the time comes,as will several other clubs.
Anyway its boring and a waste of time to discuss the future live for today and if you must dream about tommorrow,but never bank on it. |
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| Twitch,
I'm sure Leigh will be with us and one or two others when the next round of franchises are debated, agreed upon and then eventually when the application process is undertaken and Toulouse or Gateshead are picked 
However neither of us will be promoted unless the RFL change their agenda.
I also think that in this business the way that your club handled the announcement last time will not help. As I understand it from your mboard, your club did not even go and meet with the RFL after the 22nd. |
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| Quote: Twitch "I'm sorry but you really are totally underestimating Leigh, why do we have to improve every other factor, we got as many points as Widnes or only 1 less ,I can't rememberr exactly,but Widnes are not miles ahead of Leigh.
You got your fingers burned last time and whose to say it won't happen again.Lots could happen in 3 years and only a fool would believe they or anybody else has or has not a better chance of promotion.
Just enjoy the next 3 years you may have a better squad this year but after what I heard at the match on Sunday,watch this space,Leigh are definately going to be in the fight when the time comes,as will several other clubs.
Anyway its boring and a waste of time to discuss the future live for today and if you must dream about tommorrow,but never bank on it.'"
Is it two grand finals that the next franchise winners have to reach?
I'm afraid Leigh are streets behind Widnes and Halifax at the moment and have to improve a lot to counter that.
I'm not underestimating Leigh, there's plenty of potential with the Leigh Sports Village getting under way, but the club has so much to do to be rivalling Steve O'Connor's Widnes. |
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