Indeed and when the flags arn't raised after a goal kick it's called a miss

But for that try that put Widnes 23-18 up, we wouldn't have come away with this rather fortunate victory as it would have finished 19-18 to you.

"Never write off Saints"....how true that is.

OK guys , its spelt S A I N T S , a lot of fans have had trouble with that , but we cant all have a good education , as for the "miss" i was sat behind the sticks in line with your kicker and it seemed to go over, we all looked surprised when the linesmen waved it away , as for Lances "knock on" again it was right in front of us and he grounded it fine , I saw no knock on or bounce, Mr Hicks did`nt bother to consult with his in goal judges just chalked it off, s for us getting everything today, well it goes to show some fans can be one eyed, , for what its worth and Ill probably get some stick for saying this but it is a genuine complement, your performance today was excellent , you played well beating castleford and nearly turned us over , as someone said the result stands , get over it, but on your own turf with the right attitude and a few changes in personel like you have just had, well you have a chance of turning anyone over , best of luck for what`s left of the season.

Except that he didn't, you see. I was looking at it from right behind the sticks. He put it down cleanly. We couldn't believe it hadn't been awarded.

I've calmed down a bit now, im still going to slap Robert hicks if I ever meet him (a proper bitch slap right upside that mothers bitch ass face) but then I think its also a measure of how far we have come that we feel robbed today. It wasn't so long ago they put 60 on us, we also made some unfortunate errors and on another day with an extra inch, hanbury would have walked in two interception tries.
both sets of fans will have opposing views on decisions, but we have righteousness on our side .
I pitch, therefore I am.

In the eyes of the officials you didn't get the goal.

This happens in all sport, we lost a semi final of the challenge cup at old Trafford against Wigan one year off a forward pass but that rugby for you.

Saints have played their worst rugby in the last 10 years at Widnes this season and still come out with the win. so fortress Stobart, mmm maybe not. Considering this time round we had to beat the referee aswell!!

back in the box now dear. 'fortress Stobart' is a light hearted jest, no need to be up your own ass.

You didn't deserve to lose today that's for sure, but Lance's try was certainly a try and your 'missed conversion' should have been given, so it balances it out really.

However the level of consistency that the refs do not attain around the ruck is killing the game. Why the need for so many penalties? Maybe they should watch the origin game again...let the game flow.

Widnes saint Mmmmm that's a strange one keep taking the tablets Next :

nail on head on all counts good sir. Its the nature of competative sport that refs won't please everyone, but most game these days throw up controversy and outright glaring mistakes, the inconsistency is also mind blowing. These things need to be addressed.

For St Helens to have only beat the Woeful Widnes Vikings by one point is nothing short of an embarrassment.

THAT result shows Saints are on the slide. No doubt about it.

The top sides have put cricket scores up against such a minging outfit like the Vikings this season.