I do wonder what was said because I don't recall any time I've ever seen a player sent off for dissent like that. Jimmy Lowes was once binned three times in the same game for mouthing off IIRC and he still wouldn't keep his mouth shut. Very suspect decision unless Hock has said something potentially illegal like racial abuse. If it is indeed just for the usual, annoying.

However it did spur us on somewhat to see that injustice. Couple of their early tries were questionable. One was off the back of a suspect penalty and then there was the grounding decision. I said at the time he had a good view of it so I'd give him the benefit but that was before our reaction and subsequent sending off.

Proud of the lads, shouldn't have got off on such a bad foot but they more than made up for it. DOn't think I have ever seen a team of 12 men make a comeback like that, if we'd have gone on to win it would have been one of my all time best matches. There was that catch 22 moment. Got them on the ropes, we get a kickable penalty, do we go to the corner or slot it over for the two? Still don't know if we did the right thing but you can't grumble too much with the team. Just the silly sending off which was either Hock endorsing Hitler or Hicks getting way too carried away (again, against Widnes, as always), either way we fans were hard done to by it.

Another point, binning people for talking out of turn? I guess that means Paul Wellens banned every week and plenty of others? Plent of loud mouths in rugby league, we're going to end up with a pretty light pitch at some games if referees bother to be consistant.

Well done on your impressive fightback, we were lucky to get away with a point. Seems a strange decision for Hock to be sent off for dissent, very harsh unless there is more to it. That said the back chatting seems to have been creeping into our game so maybe it will set an example, don't want to end up like football!

Paul Wellens doesn't swear at the ref. He used to moan and complain but he didn't swear. There is a difference you know. Hock is a thug and a verbally abusive one too. It comes as no surprise to anyone that he was sent off for mouthing off at the ref.

Can't pretend I ain't gutted about letting that one slip, however that can't detract from your boys efforts in that second. Just way hungrier in every aspect of the game.

Would have been a cracking game for the neutrals I bet, but just a bit too heart attack inducing for both teams concerned.

All the best for the rest of the season!!

If they do that Sam Tomkins wouldnt play 10 mins of each game, we cant keep the poster boy out

Danny brough got sent off for Wakefield against crusaders a few years back for telling ref to something off. Think got 2 or 3 matches for this. Hock sending off might have been same thing which is more like abusive language rather than dissent. Even if hock wasn't aiming it directly at the official with all the noise going on the official might have took it this way and prooving otherwise at the disciplinary will be a none starter.

Yeah, guys an angel. Like broadybull kindly said, so is Sam Tomkins.

Same here. Think you've got a great outfit together and you just need to work on finishing a game and keeping on top but I can see someone has studied your glory years and figured out a big imposing squad can get you very far.

I'm surprised by a red card for dissent, while I agree that the refs should be penalising and sin binning for talking back, I find a red card over the top.

If widnes can perform like that against the teams who will make up the bottom 6 places cant see them not getting into the playoffs, tremendous effort from 12 men who stuck to the game plan and could easily if not deservedly won it but a point a piece is prob the fair result (a bradford won the 1st half widnes the 2nd)

I suppose it depends on just what was said........but we are talking about Hicks here!

I'd agree with that Broady. If we can get our injured lads back and keep free from major injuries we could be knocking on the top 8 door. Still punching above our weight as we are only a few games into our 2nd season but boy are we enjoying it!

how do you know he doesn't? he certainly doesn't appear to be saying "Excuse me sir is it possible you are mistaken with that decision?"

just sayin'

Last night was wierd. We did'nt know that Hock had been sent off until we listened to the radio in the car. We thought he was being spelled, and were waiting to defend his re-introduction! Makes us even more naffed off for losing the lead, but conversely, makes your lads effort with 12 in the comeback even better!

Oh well, only HKR next week (who seem to be hitting a hot streak after today)