Fed up now Betts needs to go, No passion or commitment from most of the team. our wingers seem to be better than all of the forwards surely Steve O'Connor is looking at this now plus cullen is a waste of time been a season ticket holder for 17 years now and seriously thinking of giving it up unless something is done.

we have conceded and average of 45 points per game this season not good enough.

But surely you can see your team is of a much lesser standard of quality man-for-man in pretty much every single position to the other teams? 2 wins at this stage I would say is nothing short of fantastic.

Is it though? I've seen worse teams on paper peform better at this level.

It was always going to be a touch transition coming up to super league.

I'm as fed up as anyone but realistically we are where I thought we would be at this stage,trouble is when looking at the fixtures I've a job to see a win in there unless something miraculous occurs, perhaps Cas' at home if we have a good day but the defence is the thing that needs urgent attention. Betts says we are learning every week but there aint much evidence of that.

I think most people expected it to be difficult in our first season, but it has been the standard of our performances which has annoyed most supporters.
Some people are actually accepting defeats of 46-12 as a good effort, the same people probably think sundays 38-4 scoreline was an improvement.
I am certainly considering whether to attend again until Betts and hopefully Cullen are given the boot and if the situation continues will be cancelling my VSH.

Cas are on the up my friend. Millward is back in full swing now and you can see the difference. Our pack is getting better every week with players returning from long term injury. We will be moving up the table now so wouldn't count on Cas as the next win.

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used to express uncertainty or possibility

Bit different from "count on"

Ahem!!!

Chin up mate....3 years to build a Sl team is plenty of time,
look at what catalans have developed into.
Give it time!!!

Well said.

KEEP THE FAITH!

Shite again Betts and Cullen need to be sacked now.Team and coaching not good enough.Can we ever recruit decent and get a good coach?

You could have the Aussie back line and Wayne Bennett at the helm but you wouldn't win anything with discipline lick that today. That's what really let you down.

The only reason Widnes supporters are on Paul Cullens back is because of his past associations.