FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Widnes Vikings > Should betts go?
38 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
International Star38No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2012May 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



What do you think?

RankPostsTeam
International Star301No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2013May 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Look at the results say no more!

RankPostsTeam
International Star7194
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2019Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

einstien said insanity is when a person does the same thing over and over again but expects a different result:



hes the bryan robson of the rugby world great player clueless manager

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach14302No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Sep 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
17123_1311448581.jpg
If you only knew the POWER of the dark side.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17123.jpg



No trying to cause a fight here but he is clearly delusional as well.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/17195822

"The conditions shocked us more than they shocked them.

"It got them on the front foot. Once everyone was cold, they were hanging on for dear life.

"The conditions and the wind set the tone for the game. Hull KR made a real good choice when they won the toss and played with the wind in the first half.

"We had a shocking first half and we just couldn't get going in the second half with the conditions."

If he seriously belives we were 'hanging on for dear life' then he has no clue what-so-ever.
No trying to cause a fight here but he is clearly delusional as well.
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/17195822

"The conditions shocked us more than they shocked them.

"It got them on the front foot. Once everyone was cold, they were hanging on for dear life.

"The conditions and the wind set the tone for the game. Hull KR made a real good choice when they won the toss and played with the wind in the first half.

"We had a shocking first half and we just couldn't get going in the second half with the conditions."

If he seriously belives we were 'hanging on for dear life' then he has no clue what-so-ever.


RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3941No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



SkyWalker them words do not give me confidence in the man and i see on Twitter Widnes players whinging about the cold?Thought they where tough Rugby League players?Years ago they played in the winter, so no sympathy and they just making excuses up, as same for both sides.No brainer for me the coach,conditioner, and a few others need to go.I know a conditioner who would get them players fitter, and makes me laugh when see on Twitter players going Macdonalds and Nandos after them performances? icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5870No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2016Aug 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
24307.jpg
[img:24qn1m99]http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/DrGomez/Replacementbanner.jpg?t=1284815933[/img:24qn1m99] On thread drift: [quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99] Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.” [i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99] [b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg



RankPostsTeam
International Star102No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2012Jul 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Given the quality in the Widnes squad,or rather lack of,i seriously doubt whether a world class coach could do any better than Denis with this hapless set of players.

Widnes fans had unrealistic ideas about what they were going to do this season.

This is Super League. You were destined to finish bottom with such a weak team. It's silly that 'Vikings' fans thought things would be any different to what's currently happening.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2988No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13977_1335458918.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13977.jpg



You cannot be a Tailor without Material.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3941No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: wirethunder "Given the quality in the Widnes squad,or rather lack of,i seriously doubt whether a world class coach could do any better than Denis with this hapless set of players.

Widnes fans had unrealistic ideas about what they were going to do this season.

This is Super League. You were destined to finish bottom with such a weak team. It's silly that 'Vikings' fans thought things would be any different to what's currently happening.'"

He did in the Championship and has no decent track record of coaching.By the way a Top Coach gets the best out of average players and he can not do that even.We had full salary cap in the Championship and did badly and also been out of the game 6 years.May aswell put you as coach as there is no game plan or tactics.His comments are also not inspirational. icon_iamwithstupid.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3941No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Top coaches also attract better players.If was that good at Union defence coach Gloucester would have kept him.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach677No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Sep 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
31911_1331232030.jpg
Think For Yourself.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_31911.jpg



Quote: Early Bath "You cannot be a Tailor without Material.'"
Also you can't be a hangman without a noose. Next.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach577No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2016Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
24120.jpg
If a woodchuck could chuck wood how far would a woodchuck chuck wood?:24120.jpg



two words............

Brian Noble

RankPostsTeam
International Star81No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2012May 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



its the first time on here that i've heard a coach try to blame a defeat on losing the toss. i thought that was cricket.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13936
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
30366_1604259384.jpg
[color=#000000:3fno8grb]Rugby Union: When entertainment just isn't your thing. [/color:3fno8grb]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_30366.jpg



Quote: Latchford Locks "two words............

Brian Noble'"


When Wigan couldn't find a win for toffee in 2006 & relegation looked a certainty, Noble took over and we stayed up with some convincing wins and even pushed for the play offs. Admittedly we broke the spirit of the cap to sign Michael Dobson and Stuart Fielden, but ultimately he lifted morale and addressed some immediate issues to turnaround the fortunes of the club.

He then took over a Crusaders side that had just quickly drafted a team together, were thrown in the deep end (exactly like yourselves) and many tipped them to come bottom, but Nobby got them to the play offs.

Brian Noble is a man that couldn't take Wigan to the next level (champions), but he saved us from relegation and took us as far as he could - a play off team. He took a bunch of Aussies at Crusaders and got them to the play offs. He's the perfect coach for the scenario you find yourselves in.

I remember when Denis Betts was at Wigan and I never had confidence in him. Admittedly, the regime at the time were never going to give him much chance, but Kris Radlinski said in his autobiography that Denis could never really put himself across as an authoritative figure as a coach. He's very inexperienced and in the situation you find yourselves in you definitely need an experienced coach! Steve O'Connor has worked wonders at your club, but I feel he made a mistake in going for Denis Betts. I don't say that with the benefit of hindsight, I thought it at the time.

Your board must act NOW. The novelty of Super League will soon wear off with fickle supporters if their team keep getting thumped every week. Betts out and Noble in - it will change your season IMO.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3941No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Cadoo I great post and just done a poll on the Widnes site on who should be coach.Yes some players are not good enough but a quality coach will attract players in season 2 and 3.A top coach will get them organised and well drilled even if get beat.

38 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
38 posts in 4 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.87548828125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9m
Wakefield H
Highlander
12
16m
Bradford Away 140724
REDWHITEANDB
10
32m
Round 17 Warrington Away
The Magic Ra
79
44m
Las Vegas Official
just_browny
21
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
RockNRolla
3200
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
satanicmills
4
Recent
Odsal lease up for sale
Wigan Bull
162
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
20s
Round 17 Warrington Away
The Magic Ra
79
31s
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
45s
Las Vegas Official
just_browny
21
48s
Rumours and signings v9
jonh
28607
1m
Squads - Leopards v Giants
satanicmills
4
1m
Odsal lease up for sale
Wigan Bull
162
1m
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
60180
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
mwindass
2090
2m
Wakefield H
Highlander
12
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
TODAY
Watson toast
Willzay
5
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
satanicmills
4
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Wollo-Wollo-
5
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
2
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
REDWHITEANDB
10
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
RfE
4
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
The Magic Ra
79
TODAY
Saints h
Zig
21
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
batleyrhino
15
TODAY
Arthur In
KaeruJim
38
TODAY
Wakefield H
Highlander
12
TODAY
Squad for Leeds
Or thane
13
TODAY
Academy Internationa
Winslade's O
1
TODAY
Jamie Humphreys NRL Debut
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
York v Dons Sunday 14th July 2024 3pm
Double Movem
4
TODAY
Warrington v Wigan Super League game to take place in Las Ve
Saddened!
2
TODAY
Las Vegas Official
just_browny
21
TODAY
have the rules changed
Spookisback
17
TODAY
FC v hull kr
Jake the Peg
61
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
100
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
714
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1287
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1253
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2259
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1565
Big Win for England Women Over..
1429
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1670
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1763
Super League form rewarded as ..
2042
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2161
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2139
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1871
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2194
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
2278
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M 3,158 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
11:00
Cronulla
v
Wests
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
17:30
WiganW
v
St.HelensW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
20:00
LondonB
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
St.Helens
 TOMORROW
     National Rugby League 2024-R19
08:30
Gold Coast
v
Parramatta
10:35
Brisbane
v
St.George
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
York V
v
FeatherstoneW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
15:00
Hull FC
v
Hull KR
15:00
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Whitehaven
v
Toulouse
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R17
17:30
Catalans
v
Salford
 Sun 14th Jul
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
12:00
Wire W
v
LeedsW
       League One 2024-R15
14:00
Newcastle
v
Hunslet
     Womens Super League 2024-R8
14:00
Hudds W
v
BarrowW
       Championship 2024-R15
15:00
Batley
v
Barrow
15:00
Bradford
v
Wakefield
15:00
Halifax
v
Featherstone
15:00
Sheffield
v
Swinton
15:00
Widnes
v
Dewsbury
15:00
York
v
Doncaster
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Fri 12th Jul
SL
20:00
LondonB-Castleford
WSL2024
17:30
WiganW-St.HelensW
SL
20:00
Wigan-St.Helens
Sat 13th Jul
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
15:00
Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Thu 11th Jul
NRL 19 Dolphins36-28Souths
SL 17 Warrington30-18Leeds
Sun 7th Jul
NRL 18 Sydney42-12St.George
NRL 18 Canberra12-16Newcastle
SL 16 Salford22-20Hull FC
CH 14 Dewsbury16-20Doncaster
CH 14 Featherstone66-0Whitehaven
CH 14 Swinton24-12Widnes
CH 14 Wakefield34-12Batley
CH 14 York54-12Barrow
L1 14 Newcastle0-44Workington
L1 14 Crusaders18-32Midlands
L1 14 Keighley20-20Rochdale
WSL2024 7 Wire W10-32Hudds W
WSL2024 7 York V44-0BarrowW
Sat 6th Jul
NRL 18 Canterbury13-12NZ Warriors
NRL 18 Wests28-40Melbourne
NRL 18 NQL Cowboys20-22Manly
SL 16 Hull KR14-16Catalans
SL 16 Leeds17-16LondonB
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 15 427 170 257 26
Warrington 17 436 231 205 24
St.Helens 16 429 170 259 22
Hull KR 16 397 217 180 22
Salford 16 317 308 9 22
Catalans 16 304 234 70 20
 
Leeds 17 309 316 -7 18
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 16 246 435 -189 9
Hull FC 16 218 496 -278 4
LondonB 16 156 615 -459 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 14 520 154 366 28
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 14 353 230 123 19
Toulouse 13 344 186 158 17
Widnes 14 327 269 58 15
Featherstone 14 396 283 113 14
 
Doncaster 14 257 341 -84 13
York 15 339 305 34 12
Batley 14 217 320 -103 12
Swinton 14 284 344 -60 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Whitehaven 14 266 424 -158 10
Barrow 13 215 393 -178 10
Dewsbury 15 184 439 -255 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9m
Wakefield H
Highlander
12
16m
Bradford Away 140724
REDWHITEANDB
10
32m
Round 17 Warrington Away
The Magic Ra
79
44m
Las Vegas Official
just_browny
21
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
RockNRolla
3200
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
satanicmills
4
Recent
Odsal lease up for sale
Wigan Bull
162
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
20s
Round 17 Warrington Away
The Magic Ra
79
31s
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
45s
Las Vegas Official
just_browny
21
48s
Rumours and signings v9
jonh
28607
1m
Squads - Leopards v Giants
satanicmills
4
1m
Odsal lease up for sale
Wigan Bull
162
1m
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
60180
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
mwindass
2090
2m
Wakefield H
Highlander
12
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Into Second With Win Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Leeds
karetaker
21
TODAY
Watson toast
Willzay
5
TODAY
Watson Been Stood Down
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Watson gone
Jo Jumbuck
6
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
satanicmills
4
TODAY
Just makes me laugh
Wildmoggy
1
TODAY
Anyone know about wfd v batley
Wollo-Wollo-
5
TODAY
Bradford
BigTime
2
TODAY
One more Saints inspired novel
glee
1
TODAY
Bradford Away 140724
REDWHITEANDB
10
TODAY
Fax v Fev
The Phantom
2
TODAY
Cas
RfE
4
TODAY
Round 17 Warrington Away
The Magic Ra
79
TODAY
Saints h
Zig
21
TODAY
For the live of god Arthur out
batleyrhino
15
TODAY
Arthur In
KaeruJim
38
TODAY
Wakefield H
Highlander
12
TODAY
Squad for Leeds
Or thane
13
TODAY
Academy Internationa
Winslade's O
1
TODAY
Jamie Humphreys NRL Debut
Deadcowboys1
2
TODAY
York v Dons Sunday 14th July 2024 3pm
Double Movem
4
TODAY
Warrington v Wigan Super League game to take place in Las Ve
Saddened!
2
TODAY
Las Vegas Official
just_browny
21
TODAY
have the rules changed
Spookisback
17
TODAY
FC v hull kr
Jake the Peg
61
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Into Second ..
100
Salford Hold On To Beat Unluck..
714
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
1287
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
1253
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
2259
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1565
Big Win for England Women Over..
1429
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1670
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1763
Super League form rewarded as ..
2042
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
2161
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
2139
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1871
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
2194
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
2278


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!