FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Widnes Vikings > New Skipper.
18 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner1557No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2014Sep 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
9303.jpg
:9303.jpg



Confirmed by the Widnes World as Dave Allen.

Been outstanding since his return to the club and hopefully this news means that he he fit and ready to return to action.

Also mentions the possibility of players leaving the club.

rlhttps://www.runcornandwidnesworld.co.uk/vikings/vikingsnews/8171775.BREAKING_NEWS__Vikings_name_new_skipper_in_shake_up/rl

J20
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6096No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2015Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45011_1321315422.jpg
This isn't a sleeping giant, it's a giant! Denis Betts Nov 2010 Twitter: @JoeyViking:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45011.jpg



Say's a lot about how far the lad has done since the 'incident' a few years back, well done to him, cracking player one if / if not the best in this division back row forwards!

Wouldn't be too against a few leaving as well, once injuries come in we'll have sooo many players needs chopping up a little!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16474No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15574_1415470358.jpg
Love a brew.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15574.jpg



Good appointment, best player in the team on his day and he will lead from the front.

Doesnt say much for Webster imo.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach43No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2014May 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38605.jpg
It's my job to freeze you!:38605.jpg



I know things could do with a shake up, but I am a bit wary when it actually happens, especially at this stage of the season.

Maybe if things do not improve the next shake up will involve the coach?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member28736No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4397_1335909374.png
@chemical_viking:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4397.png



It's a bit much to start blaming cullen. He has had a terrible run with injuries and we've not had the chance to keep a squad together playing regularly for any length of time this season. It's been one of those seasons. And lest we forget, instead of splashing out on a bunch of ex super league merceneries like we could have, our club has blooded a lot of youngsters and has thought long term, we were unlikely to be first in the table this season and we all knew that before it started.

That said if Haggerty and Pickersgill hadn't been injured and we'd had SMithy available all season who knows where we'd be now?

Don't let one performance against Leigh colour our whole season.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach43No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2014May 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38605.jpg
It's my job to freeze you!:38605.jpg



Chris, not for one minute am I blaming Cullen - we can only judge him when he is sending out his best 13. I simply made an observation - something has happened behind the scenes.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member2042No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2938.jpg
:2938.jpg



Cull 100% needs to stay for stability and a long term plan. He's coached in SL, we can't replace that experience with anybody.

Regarding the players, we need a fit squad to have a run of games, then we can judge this team, we've used over 30 players this year which will now hit almost 35 with the changes, which is crazy but we had no choice.

Captain choice - 100% agree with, I hope Dave Allen stays injury free until now and the end of the season as he makes a massive difference when on the field and works tirelessly, as does Doran.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2548No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2014May 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Black Backgrounds/Zoot.gif
Halifax RLFC grand final winners 2010.:Black Backgrounds/Zoot.gif



i suspect you thought of us when you mentioned these "ex super league" players Chris

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member28736No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4397_1335909374.png
@chemical_viking:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4397.png



Quote: faxtastic "i suspect you thought of us when you mentioned these "ex super league" players Chris'"


Not exclusively, no. Your club is certainly guilty of it, as was ours a few years back, but my main point is we could have had a better squad than we do now with our resources. We could've thrown money at proven players and not relied on the likes of Grady and Hulme at any point, but there would be no point of doing that. Our goal is super league - we have to prove that our credentials are not short term or just for show.

I'm not having a go at Fax. If it were up to me next time around, I'd throw two out of super league and stick both of us in. There are too many SL clubs resting on their laurels and crawling along whilst we are stuck here and they don't deserve it.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member28736No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4397_1335909374.png
@chemical_viking:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4397.png



Quote: Bren "Chris, not for one minute am I blaming Cullen - we can only judge him when he is sending out his best 13. I simply made an observation - something has happened behind the scenes.'"


Fair enough.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2478No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2013Jul 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
46422_1350152676.jpg
Watch out the Fax are coming:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_46422.jpg



Quote: Bren "Chris, not for one minute am I blaming Cullen - we can only judge him when he is sending out his best 13. I simply made an observation - something has happened behind the scenes.'"


Why not?

Good coaching is also about avoiding injuries as well!

Conditioning work, stretching, physio, plyo-metrics etc.. etc...
All these make up the package that the coach needs to organise to help minimise injuries.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner3575No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2019Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7368.jpg
[img:35roalt8]http://www.wedding-wonderful.co.uk/img/back-low.jpg[/img:35roalt8]:7368.jpg



Quote: wereutherein1987? "Why not?

Good coaching is also about avoiding injuries as well!

Conditioning work, stretching, physio, plyo-metrics etc.. etc...
All these make up the package that the coach needs to organise to help minimise injuries.'"


A couple of things here... firstly as a Fax fan you are in no position to determine what makes a good coach as your ideas on this change on a minute by minute basis if your opinion(s) of Calland are used as a benchmark.
The Fax Coachometer (which we all know collects the Fax fan's opinions automatically on a second by second basis) snapshot results are presented below and show a fairly stable set of results for this morning.. but this non-typical and normally they are a lot wilder than this..

2010-05-20 08:10:05 - Good
2010-05-20 08:10:09 - Bad
2010-05-20 08:10:24 - Excellent
2010-05-20 08:10:31 - Dreadful
2010-05-20 08:10:47 - Messiah
2010-05-20 08:11:11 - Unqualified

Secondly... looking at the some of the injuries - broken collar bone, damaged neck, broken cheek bone, broken hand, knee injuries, I'm not sure how a coach can prevent these. Admittedly if every player was suffering from strains and hamstring problems etc then fair enough.. but it's unreasonable to not expect a few of these type of injuries either. Unless unbeknownst to me these have been eradicated from the game by simple means and Cullen has ignored these.
Injuries happen. Sometimes you don't have many, sometimes you have a lot, sometimes you have loads. Part and parcel of a contact sport.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach27No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2010May 2010LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Good appointment for Allen but I don't see why we should remove Smith from captin. I know he is injured but, Smith has been a loyal and great servant to the club over the past 4/5 years. Unless Smith is regaining it when he is back from injury. I don't really see a need for Cullen to take this away from him.

J20
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6096No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2015Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45011_1321315422.jpg
This isn't a sleeping giant, it's a giant! Denis Betts Nov 2010 Twitter: @JoeyViking:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45011.jpg



Quote: wereutherein1987? "Why not?

Good coaching is also about avoiding injuries as well!

Conditioning work, stretching, physio, plyo-metrics etc.. etc...
All these make up the package that the coach needs to organise to help minimise injuries.'"


Though i'd agree with that in some instances not for ours, which makes it more shocking!

Widnes have had players out with...Eye injury, Broken Jaw, Shoulder injury, Back injury, broken hand, dislocated finger, sternum injury, hamstring injury, knee injury.... (so basically the full body!).

If we had say 5 ligament injuries i'd agree but due to the random nature of ours conditioning is not to blame IMO!

J20
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6096No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2015Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
45011_1321315422.jpg
This isn't a sleeping giant, it's a giant! Denis Betts Nov 2010 Twitter: @JoeyViking:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_45011.jpg



Quote: Mikey the Viking "Good appointment for Allen but I don't see why we should remove Smith from captin. I know he is injured but, Smith has been a loyal and great servant to the club over the past 4/5 years. Unless Smith is regaining it when he is back from injury. I don't really see a need for Cullen to take this away from him.'"


I thought at first it was as interim skipper but tbh the way I read it was Smith out as skipper Allen in as the was no mention of Smith getting it back but was worded 'taken over from Smith' eusa_think.gif

Hears Smith and Cullen didn't see eye to eye at first but thought that was over something to do with Wesbter and as Smith still here next season thought that had gone.

18 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
18 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.79345703125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
Recent
Planning for next season
Cokey
176
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5639
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
1m
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
2m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
2m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
197
3m
Film game
karetaker
5639
3m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
4m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
5m
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
6m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
homerjsimpso
14
7m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
472
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
530
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1272
England's Women Demolish The W..
1093
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1336
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1128
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1394
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1928
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2145
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2385
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1957
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2195
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2659
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2091
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2163
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,759 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
Recent
Planning for next season
Cokey
176
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5639
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
1m
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
2m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
2m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
197
3m
Film game
karetaker
5639
3m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
4m
Transfer Talk V5
The Biffs Ba
503
5m
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
6m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
homerjsimpso
14
7m
Dons Squad 2025
Jemmo
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
472
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
530
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1272
England's Women Demolish The W..
1093
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1336
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1128
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1394
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1928
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2145
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2385
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1957
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2195
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2659
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2091
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2163


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!