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Watched it again last night and that pass was definitely well forward and the one to Finn could have been given too. What's really annoying is that Silverwood was right there when Clark made the first pass and still didn't give it. That being said, Cas were by far the better team and well deserved their win. Good luck to them at Wembley, I hope they win it - and I think they will.

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Quote: OFFTHECUFF "Who cares Castleford where better overall. The try should have been checked on the video, as did look well forward from the stands. I was in a very good postion too.'"

No point in checking for a forward pass on the screen - it isn't done in RL, but is in RU. It SHOULD be in RL too and kicking the ball to dead should be like RU too - hand over from where the ball was kicked. Not having a go at Cas here because we were doing the same in the first half, but where is the skill in hoofing the ball 60+ yards into dead so you can pin the opposition in their own 20? Boring tactic which will kill the game if not checked.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer, in the instant the ball leaves the hands. It doesn't matter if he passes it slow or fast

Irrelevant. It doesn't matter if rotates not at all, or like a pulsar.

Not relevant, the only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer. The angle could be anything, depending which way he is facing, which way he is moving (if at all), but it doesn't matter

Not relevant. The only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer. His speed doesn't matter, nor does the speed of the other player.

Not relevant. The only relevant moment is the instant the ball leaves the hands. Any effect caused after that by the wind acting on the ball is not taken into account, if the ball was legally passed not forwards, and then a sudden gust of wind blew it forward 50 metres, that is still not a forward pass.

So QED, it actually wouldn't.'"

QED, you don't know what you're talking about and it is all relevant in showing accurately whether the ball was passed 'forward' or not (though i realise this would never happen anyways).
Of course just visually looking and assessing the relative speed of the passer against the receiver (hence why the ball travels forward and isn't a forward pass) is the best way but understanding of why from fans & officials, (players to a lesser degree) means we would not be in a position of 'forwaaaard' being shouted by fans when it isn't and referees giving forward passes when they previously haven't (despite the obvious hand position clue)

But I'm sure you're well versed in the science of such to debunk all that properly rather than your inaacurate ramblings. The pass is acted out by the passer, any spin/rotation/moment from when it leaves the players hands impacts as to whether the pass relative to the catcher has gone forward..If you don't want to accept that then that's up to you..

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Once again, and just for clarity, a pass is forward based on the angle it leaves the players hands. The concept is simple and Girmmy and FerociousAardvark are correct and it cannot be measured in metres.

When the ref fails to see the pass as it leaves then judging gets complicated by the factors mentioned by KnockersbumpMKII.

Let's not get confused and fall out arguing about different things.

From the Rugby Onion...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=box08lq9ylg
Once again, and just for clarity, a pass is forward based on the angle it leaves the players hands. The concept is simple and Girmmy and FerociousAardvark are correct and it cannot be measured in metres.

When the ref fails to see the pass as it leaves then judging gets complicated by the factors mentioned by KnockersbumpMKII.

Let's not get confused and fall out arguing about different things.

From the Rugby Onion...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=box08lq9ylg


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