Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Irrelevant. The only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer, in the instant the ball leaves the hands. It doesn't matter if he passes it slow or fast
Irrelevant. It doesn't matter if rotates not at all, or like a pulsar.
Not relevant, the only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer. The angle could be anything, depending which way he is facing, which way he is moving (if at all), but it doesn't matter
Not relevant. The only thing that matters is whether the hands propelled the ball not forwards of the passer. His speed doesn't matter, nor does the speed of the other player.
Not relevant. The only relevant moment is the instant the ball leaves the hands. Any effect caused after that by the wind acting on the ball is not taken into account, if the ball was legally passed not forwards, and then a sudden gust of wind blew it forward 50 metres, that is still not a forward pass.
So QED, it actually wouldn't.'"
QED, you don't know what you're talking about and it is all relevant in showing accurately whether the ball was passed 'forward' or not (though i realise this would never happen anyways).
Of course just visually looking and assessing the relative speed of the passer against the receiver (hence why the ball travels forward and isn't a forward pass) is the best way but understanding of why from fans & officials, (players to a lesser degree) means we would not be in a position of 'forwaaaard' being shouted by fans when it isn't and referees giving forward passes when they previously haven't (despite the obvious hand position clue)
But I'm sure you're well versed in the science of such to debunk all that properly rather than your inaacurate ramblings. The pass is acted out by the passer, any spin/rotation/moment from when it leaves the players hands impacts as to whether the pass relative to the catcher has gone forward..If you don't want to accept that then that's up to you..