I agree chris But if we dont kick on next year with recruits will put the club under immense pressure to perform in the 3rd and most important year ,they need to be gelling next season as we know can take a good season to do that , and after a dreadful start last season with injuries and sackings off two of our strongest signings hopefully well kick on

widnes has been strongly linked to our con mika at hull kr, your welcome to him.

I would gladly take Mika and Mason.

Just need a centre then and were sorted.

Whilst I agree that Mika and Mason would be useful additions VM would you not agree that we need a "McShane" quality hooker or else we will lose some of the zip around the park that we had during his time with us. I am sure that White will be OK and is particularly dangerous near the line, but his distribution was nowhere near as sharp as McShane. I see that as a higher priority than any other position and the one area that we would have gone backwards in from last season if its not resolved.

There was a suggestion on TIW which could be an option - that is using Gore (beefed up ) as hooker. He certainly has the SH's eye for defensive gaps but may not be quick enough for SL at SH.

Friendlies could be a good place to try him out?

I like any other Widnes fan would love to see mcshane back but it isn't going to happen and there isn't any other quality hookers around so we'll have to stick with what we have. As suggested gore might be able to tackle that option depending on how Widnes want to utilise him.

Its a loss I agree but on the other hand Kevin brown at stand off is a much needed weapon.