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Quote: Snake Plisskin "oh well. Lets all just give up and suck on a shotgun then.
The whole 'dare to dream' thing passed you buy did it?
Sadly many are making a meal of an admittedly badly presented change in the Stronghold arrangements. Of course they have the right to do as they please, but just do it!

When you look at where we were and where we are I just wonder what some folk want, or deserve - perfection I suppose. Well you wont get that very often, in Widnes or anywhere tbh!

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Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "No way missed this in between all the posts, whats up bugman? Lost your appetite for carrots in your lobby?'"


I don't know how anyone can stop watching live Rugby League, moreover when it's played by your beloved club. Gotta fight the oppressive system from within Starbug lad.

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Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "No way missed this in between all the posts, whats up bugman? Lost your appetite for carrots in your lobby?'"


Bored with nothing tangible to play for, I remember back to the battles we,you and Oldham had back in 2001 , the challenges of Huddersfield and Salford, the atmosphere at the games, especially at Hilton Par

We dont even have the fun of battering you lot anymore, I'd had enough 12 months ago, then we hit the buffers and we lost the person filling the financial gap, I thought it would be a wake up call for the club and a new direction taken, but it seems they want to make the same mistakes again along with a whole load of new ones and I dont want to be around to see them

So go on, try and convince me to join you lot icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Starbug "Bored with nothing tangible to play for, I remember back to the battles we,you and Oldham had back in 2001 , the challenges of Huddersfield and Salford, the atmosphere at the games, especially at Hilton Par

We dont even have the fun of battering you lot anymore, I'd had enough 12 months ago, then we hit the buffers and we lost the person filling the financial gap, I thought it would be a wake up call for the club and a new direction taken, but it seems they want to make the same mistakes again along with a whole load of new ones and I dont want to be around to see them

So go on, try and convince me to join you lot
Were part of the corrupt super league i thought you didnt want to be part of that icon_smile.gif shame you've given up on the lobby, not sure i could do that with Widnes tbh, Leigh have had a decent year, northern rail cup and a trip out to warrington what more could you ask for being a championship fan? icon_biggrin.gif


Just out of curiosity what mistakes do you think Leigh are making?

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Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "Were part of the corrupt super league i thought you didnt want to be part of that
I do want Leigh to get into SL, but I realise it isnt going to happen, or it wont be a success unless we at least achieve your level of business off pitch, it seems we think a ' strapline ' of we beLEIGHve and no hard work to get more than 2,000 fans along apparently with a ' partnership ' with the LSV management will get us there

I ' believe ' a new initiative in community and marketing is the way forward for all Championship clubs, especially Leigh

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I'm not opposed to P/R but what bothers me is that those in positions of influence never follow through and tell people just how it could be achieved.

I know from our short return to SL that our crowds will not support a team that has any real chance of challenging for the top spot, or even signing top players. It really is a different world since we were last here!

Certainly without hefty financial support or a massive crowd growth virtually no team in the Championship atm would stand a chance. But that may well be what those proposing P/R want. It enlivens the bottom of SL up a bit but doesn't threaten the grade A clubs who are there forever. For my money that is just as cynical as stopping P/R. Without a real opportunity to move up the SL you are really better off being the best in the Part Time Pro field tbh. Fev have taken this route with success, but their crowds haven't noticeably improved.

We, with SOC, are hopeful of a steady growth and lifting ourselves off the bottom over time. Cas,Salford, and others are struggling and will do for a while.

In my view SOC's approach, to aim for a business orientated club that is self financing, is the only stable solution. A money man such as Adam Pearson at Hull FC will throw cash about for some time but the club hangs on him not getting bored. Not good enough imo.

If we fail at SL level I reckon that no other club on the horizon atm will succeed.

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