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Quote: Pepe "So, which current Champioship club will be able to put in place a bid, that betters the one Widnes are likely to put forward, in the foreseeable future?


- Top internationally recognised Sponsors/ wealthy owners
- £2.5 million turn over/£1million profit
- The ability to play up to the cap level in SL
- Attendances 3,000+
- Full youth system/8 homegrown players in squad and 11 used in one season. u16’s & u18’s playing in the top groupings and beating almost all before them. Reserve side doing well and a top service area.
- Community set up and player education pathways
- A known average attendance level in SL of 7,000 (That achieved while being relegated)
- Stadium with state of the art facilities such as top class gym/briefing rooms with individual player camera search capability, chill-out rooms, media area for TV and areas for journalists to write reports with online facility and top class physio and treatment rooms – all state of the art. These do not necessarily come with a new stadium; they are very expensive additions to the infrastructure.

Several Super League sides cannot match this, never mind Championship clubs!

I’ll have a bet with you that this will not be bettered on every poin - not just one or two points but every point - by any heartland clubs in the next 3 licence applications from the Championship. Name your price and we’ll arrange a place to hold the cash until 2018 and then donate it to the charity of choice of the one who is right.'"

Yes I believe it will be beaten..Thats my opinion and I fail to see why you can not accept that? You dont need to have the best application ever submitted, you need the best application for 2012 which you have! So why is it so hard for you to accept that imo, while you are enjoying your SL games that another club from the Championship could submit a stronger application than the one that gained you SL? (should you be chosen)
After all as I said before Widnes have managed to come out of admistration and within 5 years become the most financialy viable team in the Championship, so why can that not happen for other clubs?

By the way the more you rant on the more arrogant you are looking mate.

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Quote: Starbug "Check out the 'RFL can invite any overseas club to submit an application '

Clause , as I said , it won't affect Widnes , but they can apply if the RFL invite them to'"


You never know, this is the RFL after all, like most Widnes fans until its officially announced that we are in (if we are that is) then we wont beleive it.

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Quote: soss "I didnt say that administration did have a bareing on the cap. What I said was you came out in 2007. It doesnt matter where the money is spent for the books its the fact is was spent and posted as a loss (has to come from somewhere). I don't want to get into this side of it as I dont know your accounts other than what I have read on the forum.

The point I was making is that the cap did not come in to rein Widnes back it was brought in to stop clubs overspending and going into administration. No team can use the salary cap as an excuse for their performance as we ALL work to the same capping system which is audited by the RFL.'"


Would a cap of 400k not still do this, how about 500k?

It was lowered because of licensing and the fact that winning the league means less. It was to increase competitiveness. In the past the teams with the most money kept a full-time squad and won the league easily. This wasn't necessary in the Championship.

The salary cap is an excuse for performance because the league is reduced to a competition of who can get the most out of 300k. In theory Leeds, Wigan or Brisbane would stand the same chance of winning the Championship as Batley.

We have the most fans and the most money. How exactly are we supposed to show this superiority when we are only allowed to spend the same as all the other clubs? It also means nothing about how clubs will do in Super League as the cap goes up by so much.

The fact is that if they scrapped the cap tomorrow there would be some clubs who would still be spending 300k, however Widnes could spend a lot more and very probably would. Those clubs are allowed to spend the maximum that they can but Widnes aren't. Hardly fair.

The fact also remains that we never had P&R with a cap like it is now. So it means nothing who finishes top and whether they should be in Super League.

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maximus decimus, pepe and all other viking warriors! i think it probably best we just sit back safe in the knowledge we know the facts. rather than continuing to engage in pointless debate with misinformed fools. lets just keep to ourselves and wait a few years for our glorious victory in the super league grand final!

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Quote: vikingsmurf "maximus decimus, pepe and all other viking warriors! i think it probably best we just sit back safe in the knowledge we know the facts. rather than continuing to engage in pointless debate with misinformed fools. lets just keep to ourselves and wait a few years for our glorious victory in the super league grand final!'"


I'll be cheering you on from the pub , pint in hand eusa_clap.gif

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This is really running on. All I can say is that if/when you get in is Good Luck.
I'm sure that you'll need a lot as it'll still appear an uneven playing field but if you make a good shout of it it may open the door for next time for other clubs.

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