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Quote: John S "The WWN reports Paul Cullen saying that he was furious with the tackle and that if the RFL dont ban Varkulis then the club will deal with the matter internally.'"


That would just make the whole thing worse, Cullen has gone loopy, that isn't going to sort out any problems in the camp, it's just going to lower morale.

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Despite your platitudes towards the end I'm afraid you just sound like a sore loser.
I couldn't attend the game as I was looking after my son so I watched the game live on TV. When the tackle was made two things were clear... Deano instantly recognised that the player was hurt and signalled to the Barrow bench. Secondly the crowd began singing 'DEANO' not booing..... which is fair enough. The guy is a crowd favourite being one of the famous five, for his contribution with two tries and his style of running. It would be unreasonable to expect the stadium to wait in silence whilst the player is treated before being able to recognise a players effort. We do have a group of over-exuberant youngsters that attend the games and I wouldn't pretend otherwise. Unfortunately these are sometimes the most vocal. What these were doing is often up to them. They are a law unto themselves. However to categorise 'ALL' widnes fans this way just smacks of jealousy and resentment which I find plenty of from 'some' of your fans. As we approach the licence announcements I expect more of this from the cult of Des Johnston.

Another point I would like to make is about the seriousness of the injury. Admittedly it looked fairly bad but the player was sat up and concious the whole time. Completely different from the sickening feeling when you notice that a player has remained lay down following a tackle.

On the point of the stadium shouting for Widnes when the game was about to be re-started... you are kidding me aren't you... they've got a bloody nerve haven't they!!!!! Fancy trying to rally some support in a game like this one, after a play like the last one also taking into account how bad things have been at the club recently. Widnes fans in supporting their own team and shouting the club name shocker!!! You are right to be appalled.

I'll say this again also, just because Bill Arthur mentions the Barrow fans applauding their player off when they are in shot does not mean that there were not sections of the Widnes support also applauding. In the past we have had fans from other clubs on here thanking us for the support we have show to injured players. On a number of occasions when we have played away from home and the injured player has had to walk in front of the fans they have received applause whilst they have walked the length of the stand.

On the point of these 'non real' Barrow fans or whatever you called them.. you need to make your mind up and can't have it both ways. You are either happy to include these new faces as Barrow fans and celebrate what sounded like a decent turnout or identify your 'true fans' and only record these in your attendance figures. I suspect it will be the first option.

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Quote: Chris B "Despite your platitudes towards the end I'm afraid you just sound like a sore loser.
I couldn't attend the game as I was looking after my son so I watched the game live on TV. When the tackle was made two things were clear... Deano instantly recognised that the player was hurt and signalled to the Barrow bench. Secondly the crowd began singing 'DEANO' not booing..... which is fair enough. The guy is a crowd favourite being one of the famous five, for his contribution with two tries and his style of running. It would be unreasonable to expect the stadium to wait in silence whilst the player is treated before being able to recognise a players effort. We do have a group of over-exuberant youngsters that attend the games and I wouldn't pretend otherwise. Unfortunately these are sometimes the most vocal. What these were doing is often up to them. They are a law unto themselves. However to categorise 'ALL' widnes fans this way just smacks of jealousy and resentment which I find plenty of from 'some' of your fans. As we approach the licence announcements I expect more of this from the cult of Des Johnston.

Another point I would like to make is about the seriousness of the injury. Admittedly it looked fairly bad but the player was sat up and concious the whole time. Completely different from the sickening feeling when you notice that a player has remained lay down following a tackle.

On the point of the stadium shouting for Widnes when the game was about to be re-started... you are kidding me aren't you... they've got a bloody nerve haven't they!!!!! Fancy trying to rally some support in a game like this one, after a play like the last one also taking into account how bad things have been at the club recently. Widnes fans in supporting their own team and shouting the club name shocker!!! You are right to be appalled.

I'll say this again also, just because Bill Arthur mentions the Barrow fans applauding their player off when they are in shot does not mean that there were not sections of the Widnes support also applauding. In the past we have had fans from other clubs on here thanking us for the support we have show to injured players. On a number of occasions when we have played away from home and the injured player has had to walk in front of the fans they have received applause whilst they have walked the length of the stand.

On the point of these 'non real' Barrow fans or whatever you called them.. you need to make your mind up and can't have it both ways. You are either happy to include these new faces as Barrow fans and celebrate what sounded like a decent turnout or identify your 'true fans' and only record these in your attendance figures. I suspect it will be the first option.'"

Perhaps you should watch the video again!
You are making up your own words for my comment alot of barrow supporters turned out as it was against St Helens, we never see them at home or away games and just used the game for a p*ss up.
As for my platitudes, I listen and take in what other people say and as a free thinking human being can change my own opinion based on ALL the facts.
I am right when I said there was booing (now not sure where it was from as I take onboard comments from this forum) and Widnes chants while Zeb was down not as the game was just about to restart. Fact!
Having followed Barrow through thick and thin the last thing I am is a sore loser as that was knocked out of me years ago...
As for me categorising "ALL" Widnes fans, thats exactly what you did, see your original comments.

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Quote: soss "As you all did when Zeb Luisi was injured...you booed him and when the Barrow fans applauded him off all the Widnes fans did was shout for Widnes. I was disgusted and before you deny this, even the commentators stated that only Barrow fans clapped him from the field.'"


I clapped.

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I was right behind the Barrow fans and MOST of them were not paying any attention to Luisi themselves and were more interested in mouthing off at the Widnes fans. I even commented on this at the time.

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Quote: soss "So you would call booing applauding your player for the cover tackle? I still have the game on Sky + and watched it again to confirm I was right.
It strikes me that certain Widnes supporters should sort their own backyard out before slagging other teams off and stating your whiter than white.
I was at the St's game and yes I was disgusted when some of the non regular "Barrow Fans" and I use the term lightly, cheered, however I'm not so blinkered that I claim all Barrow fans are fantastic.
You did boo Zeb when he was down and you did not clap him from the field as you were all too busy shouting for your team. Minor points I know and I'm glad to say quite rare in our great game. I always enjoy coming to your ground and will be there next Sunday, lets hope everyone walk off the field unaided.'"


No, that was Barrow fans booing Widnes fans for having the audacity to applaud Gaskell’s cover tackle and chant his name. There was no gloating over ZL’s injury and no booing by Widnes fans. icon_confused.gif

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