Iam going to bullet point my thoughts at this particular time.

*paul cullen is not the man for the job he has been here a while now and there is no improvement. the man has never really achieved anything. I'm not saying this because he coached warrington, that fact does not bother me. I'd expect to see at least some improvement.. what has changed?

* i want to know when are so called big players are actually going to turn up and be counted.#

* 1 man rugby does not work so why do we keep trying it, and to make it worse its our backs doing all the work... where are the forwards?? and when are we actually going to start playing rugby. when we actually start passing out wide its too slow.
then to make matters worse we keep giving inside ball..

* i wonder when our defense is actually going to tackle round the legs at the moment we have too many players going for big hits up top and missing.

* Friday and saturday night games aren't working. I'd rather see the good old Sunday afternoon games back

* I cannot get my head around the fact the team is (full time) you would not think it looking at them.

* i want to know why when the opposition put a bomb in the air no widnes player looks interested in claiming the ball. often 2 or more players just watch the opposition regain the ball and score.

* why cant widnes put games to bed. they take leads and cannot keep them or struggle to maintain it against decent opposition.

* i want to know why the club thinks they owe certain players a living.

*when are players going to start looking interested.

* How much longer is all this going to last

I could go on and on..
I drive to every game from ispwich, ive just got home from tonights game. Im beginning to think is it worth it all the hours in the car and petrol to watch such a mess

Don't really want to get into the Friday/Sunday debate, but in terms of atmosphere, I'm sure no matter what day the Batley game was on the atmosphere was going to be poor. If we think back over the past 3 seasons in NL1, how many games have seen a great atmosphere? The odd game against Leigh, Castleford or Whitehaven?

To be honest as soon as the licence decision was made, the atmosphere was going to take a nose dive, even though in general it was pretty poor anyway.

The recession is certainly kicking in.

As for kicking, the likes of Leigh and Widnes will really get a kicking this season regarding averages year on year,

Widnes should still be top though, but other than the 4300 you got against us (and it was GF), I cannot see you topping that, unless some kind of deal is done when you play Fax.

Gee, Widnes v Leigh games used to be 6k + not too long ago. I'd be surprised if there is 2500 for the return game at LSV

ah but thats all the away fans this expansion business brings to the game

Ah, Quite correct, but some tickets were given out as part of the TV sky deal ?

Maybe, once you start stuffing some teams, some might flock back, but some teams attendances this season will get caned as a result of the recession and franchises.

Watch the Celts attendances go down. Irrespective, I don't feel sorry one bit unfortunately.