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| Quote: mwindass "Good thing about Smith is he'll be used to coaching big egos and getting a tune out of them.
Wane and Madge get spoken about as disciplinarian, but Smith won't be a mug'"
Rob Burrow mentions in his book what a strict disciplinarian he is.
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| Quote: RockNRolla "Rob Burrow mentions in his book what a strict disciplinarian he is.'"
Yes he also says something along the lines that Smith improved every player every year and that he brought the right players in and if any player didn't buy into the culture he was let go.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Whoever comes in will have one hell of a hot potato on their hands and to be fair all the names mentioned so far such as Smith, Maguire & Wane all have good credentials, have proven experience and have shown in their previous jobs they have the ability to improve teams. BUT and its a big but this is a Hull FC team that we are talking about that seems to have a small group who think they run the show and are coach killers so its a very tough gig.
I find it hard to understand how certain players can look at themselves in the mirror and not feel disgusted and embarrassed by the continual capitulations and pitiful performances they've dished out. They can't have any self respect and that shows in lack of respect for the club and the shirt they wear.'"
I get that totally but, surely, these coaches , Radford in particular, had regular dialogue with AP?
He must know, unless he's totally detached, that there is a core of players that need to go, he pays their wages and I honestly think that he'll act on it now. He has to. I know we all say we'll vote with our feet, but if we get a decent coach and can offload/sack or whatever the individuals that are disruptive and causing all the problems, sign a decent pack leader or two then we'll all give it another go and things would look brighter. I also think an open cross floor forum would help enormously, but I doubt that would be sanctioned as I feel certain, with the level of anger and resentment we all have, something would spill over into individual blaming and pointing of fingers.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Yes he also says something along the lines that Smith improved every player every year and that he brought the right players in and if any player didn't buy into the culture he was let go.'"
He’s obviously changed then. The three Aussies he brought to HKR did not tiurn out well. He continued to support BT after his brush with the law when he should have looked at offloading him.
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| Quote: Keiththered "He’s obviously changed then. The three Aussies he brought to HKR did not tiurn out well. He continued to support BT after his brush with the law when he should have looked at offloading him.'"
He did get you to a SL semi final with a very average squad.
You have a habit of rewriting history Keith.
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| Quote: GrahamBray "I get that totally but, surely, these coaches , Radford in particular, had regular dialogue with AP?
He must know, unless he's totally detached, that there is a core of players that need to go, he pays their wages and I honestly think that he'll act on it now. He has to. I know we all say we'll vote with our feet, but if we get a decent coach and can offload/sack or whatever the individuals that are disruptive and causing all the problems, sign a decent pack leader or two then we'll all give it another go and things would look brighter. I also think an open cross floor forum would help enormously, but I doubt that would be sanctioned as I feel certain, with the level of anger and resentment we all have, something would spill over into individual blaming and pointing of fingers.'"
Thats all well and good , but Hull cannot simply afford to sack those individuals that you refer to, or at least not before their contracts run out. It would be too expensive for Adam Pearson to contemplate doing, especially given Hulls current financial predicament. Plus, where would Hull find the quality players to replace those that were sacked or released from their contracts? All the best players have already been signed up by other clubs for this season. So, any quality additions, assuming that Hull could afford them, would probably have to come from the lower divisions.
In my opinion Hull will have to ride the current storm for while and hope that the new coach can at least get them in a position where they can attract better players in the future. Not an impossible task but it will take time and patience on the part of the club and its fans.
Hull FC may have to take a step back before been able to move forward again.
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| I get the feeling they will be a fall guy from the playing staff, I think logically an axe will be shown to the playing group in an attempt for them to change attitude.
Probably a big personality in the playing group, not a josh Bowden type of scapegoat.
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| Why are all these Rovers fans bothered about our new coach/ recruitment process?
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| Quote: Seventies red "Thats all well and good , but Hull cannot simply afford to sack those individuals that you refer to, or at least not before their contracts run out. It would be too expensive for Adam Pearson to contemplate doing, especially given Hulls current financial predicament. Plus, where would Hull find the quality players to replace those that were sacked or released from their contracts? All the best players have already been signed up by other clubs for this season. So, any quality additions, assuming that Hull could afford them, would probably have to come from the lower divisions.
In my opinion Hull will have to ride the current storm for while and hope that the new coach can at least get them in a position where they can attract better players in the future.
Hull FC may have to take a step back before been able to move forward again.'"
Lets be honest if we sack certain players we would find equal quality at West Hull under 8s. Probably more mature as well.
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| Quote: pmarrow "Lets be honest if we sack certain players we would find equal quality at West Hull under 8s. Probably more mature as well.'"
Well to be fair, after what I witnessed on Saturday I would have to agree with you on that one.
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| Quote: Seventies red "
Hull FC may have to take a step back before been able to move forward again.'"
We can't afford to take too many steps backwards, we're already a touch too close to the cliff edge, a couple of further steps back and we will be over it
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| Quote: mwindass "Why are all these Rovers fans bothered about our new coach/ recruitment process?
Probably because it is rumoured to be Smith, and we haven’t completely resolved how we feel about his time at Rovers and we don’t really know how we feel about this. Well, I don’t anyway.
His first interview after appointment and Peters’ first after arrival will both be really interesting, on a few levels.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Probably because it is rumoured to be Smith, and we haven’t completely resolved how we feel about his time at Rovers and we don’t really know how we feel about this. Well, I don’t anyway.
His first interview after appointment and Peters’ first after arrival will both be really interesting, on a few levels.'"
I just don't get why most fans are painting him out to be a failure, which he wasn't.
I get the animosity towards him after his exit. But most Rovers fans have spent the last few months saying you've moved on from him.
It'll make that first derby extra spicy at least
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| Quote: Chris71 "Thorman for whatever reason (maybe just too big a club and pressure)was truly awful as a player in his time at Hull but as a player elsewhere he was more than decent. He certainly possesses a decent rugby brain though whether he is experienced or hard enough to be be able to deal with players like ours I'm unsure as it isn't going to be pretty if the law is laid down from day one as it should be. His coaching record doesn't seem to set the world alight either to suggest we can expect great things.
Wonder what Danny Orr is doing?'"
2009 was a bad time for the club, the class of 2006 had either got old and/or had lost their mojo, a recession had hit and funds were low for the fans and an untested assistant was in charge...sound familiar?
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