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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Amongst Murdock's tweets tonight was the comment that Agar had little money for players. What, apart from £100k plus fee for Westerman, you mean? He's convinced that our next coach will reap success off the back of what Agar's done.'"
Can't lose if he sticks to that one. What a prat.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Amongst Murdock's tweets tonight was the comment that Agar had little money for players. What, apart from £100k plus fee for Westerman, you mean? He's convinced that our next coach will reap success off the back of what Agar's done.'"
Agar must have some good pics of Murdock
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Amongst Murdock's tweets tonight was the comment that Agar had little money for players. What, apart from £100k plus fee for Westerman, you mean? He's convinced that our next coach will reap success off the back of what Agar's done.'"
Not forgetting fees paid for Tansey & Obst??
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"Peter Walsh was technically the best coach I played under and I've had a few. Another coach FC fans never liked and got rid of."
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Amongst Murdock's tweets tonight was the comment that Agar had little money for players. What, apart from £100k plus fee for Westerman, you mean? He's convinced that our next coach will reap success off the back of what Agar's done.'"
Oops - think maybe he was talking about Walsh. Very confusing is Twitter. Still think he's a bit of an @rse, mind.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Said also
I'm glad we've got so much power
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| Talking of twitter,will rich agar on twitter go now or stay ?
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| Just listening on the iplayer now, blimey that Trevor is a nutter isn't he?
Murdock's views seem to just mirror the excuse culture we seem to have had with Agar. He's a great coach and any problems have been entirely out of his control. Strange how it seems that there are so many things he has no control over, though.
Martyn Sadler was similar earlier though. I wonder why it is that so many people seem to back him. Is it that he really does have ability that we're overlooking or has been restricted, or is it that they all just like him and want to stick up for him?
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Murdock's views seem to just mirror the excuse culture we seem to have had with Agar. He's a great coach and any problems have been entirely out of his control. Strange how it seems that there are so many things he has no control over, though.
Martyn Sadler was similar earlier though. I wonder why it is that so many people seem to back him. Is it that he really does have ability that we're overlooking or has been restricted, or is it that they all just like him and want to stick up for him?'" Think his passport has something to do with it.
People in the media are desperate for a English coach to succeed.
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| Quote: The Hollywood Frasier "Think his passport has something to do with it.
People in the media are desperate for a English coach to succeed.'"
But they just make themselves look foolish and actually undermine the coaches they talking about IMO. Describing some fantasy scenario where failing coaches are really brilliant but have just been unlucky does not help make a case for them.
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| Murdock's closing comments about not giving in to fan threats of not buying passes, Agar's worth the risk of perseverance because Hull fans are loyal and will come and watch if we're winning: Is it just me or is that very close to the old board's perceived stance of treating us with disdain because we'll turn up and pump money in regardless?
Also, we've persevered with Agar for 4 years, so no matter how much Murdock tries to paint him as a victim, he's been given ample time to impress and simply hasn't. I fail to see why he can have so much faith that we will suddenly be contenders under Agar. It's been coming 'next year' for the last 3 at least, we fans just seem to have cottoned on to the fact that it never actually arrives. Maybe it's about time Murdock considered that in this case the majority might actually be right.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Murdock's closing comments about not giving in to fan threats of not buying passes, Agar's worth the risk of perseverance because Hull fans are loyal and will come and watch if we're winning
Just catching the second half of it now as i missed it due to a job. But if those were his comments it shows why he is not a businessman unlike AP. As the owner AP will have known the general feeling among the fans and rather than risk the loss of yet more supporters/revenue in the hope that Agar may finally get it right he has taken a sound business decision and removed the coach and brought in a new man.
You only have to look at the general buzz on these boards and facebook to notice the sudden change in the fans and people I know (myself included) will now either renew or get a pass again for the coming season.
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| The injury situation over the last few years is cobblers.
Yes we have suffered injuries to senior players in key positions and we have tried to use a band-aid by shuffling the rest of the senior squad around to cover.
Other teams such as Leeds, Saints & Wigan have also suffered similar injury crises but have managed to solve theirs by bringing young players through and pitching them in to 1st team rugby. Why could they manage it and not us? Agar was ultimately responsible for all levels of coaching and his player development was found to be sadly lacking.
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| I'm afraid Doc lost a lot of credibility tonight with his biased ranting. I particularly liked the bit where he said 'if you talk to people in the know within the game they'll tell you how highly rated Rich is'. Really? If he's that highly rated how come he's never been mentioned for any other SL job (other than Wakefield). He also needs to be careful with his criticism of Adam Pearson for 'listening to the fans too much'. Adam has got rid because his crowds are down 3,000 on average and the team he's bought is going to finish below halfway.
I would say those are fair enough reasons to make a change, especially when he's just paid quite a lot of money to buy the club!
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Murdock's closing comments about not giving in to fan threats of not buying passes, Agar's worth the risk of perseverance because Hull fans are loyal and will come and watch if we're winning
Another "Doc" classic. He managed the quickest contradiction in broadcasting history. "FC fans are the loyalist in the game, and will turn up if the team are winning". Surely, by definition, "loyal" fans turn up regardless of form?
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