invariably when a team lose a player they did deeper than ever for that period ALA GB vs Oz at wigan minus adrain morley

all about adrenalin, losing a player can sometimes boost moral for that team not kill it
listen wigan are no mugs, a champion team littered with internationals , going a player down to them is irritating but not a major loss
we did well today , lets enjoy it

We did well agreed, however it was a under strength Wigan team and they were there for the taking today.

Best interview Agar has given. Said it like it was. Spoke well with praise for his side.

Agreed.

You quoted me and had a pop. It wasn't until someone pulled you up on it that you started to backtrack.

As it happens I wouldn't criticise Agar after today but at the same time I'm not going to praise him, just because the players put in a good performance, if they are still playing in a way i don't agree with.

Top teams get the job done sadly we are not a top team....yes effort was there all to see and they gave there all and that in a way worries me that we played Wigan and had the game won and then we lost it. I remember Morrison gettting sent off for the bulls against us at the KC and soon as he had gone we went to shambles.

The worrying thing is when our guys have pressure on them they buckle.

They play well against Wigan knowing that everyone expects them to get hammered and they are winning then wigan lose a man and its like oh my god we can win and then splat the players panic and give away silly penalties and give the game away.

Same in the cup last year and the year before and then KR in the play offs the team are going to get a reputation of being Chokers.

Agreed. Showed he genuinely cares and showed real passion for his side. He seemed vexed and wasn't too shy to express it.

To be fair i dont think anybody thinks he does not care. I have always got the impression he cares a great deal but just isn't up to putting it right.

No backtracking here!

Surely if the players put in a good performance then Agar gets credit too? Afterall he gets the flak when the players don't play well. See this is exactly my point.

I know, was just good to hear him come across more animated then his usual and express it a bit more.

As a motivator I think he must have done a great job today, sounds like the lads were up for it big time.

Are you deliberately missing the point?

I'm not talking about blaming Agar because the players didn't execute the plan correctly or praising Agar because the players execute his plan really well. I'm talking about blaming Agar because you dont agree with his plan in the first place.

For instance if I dont agree with his tactics/plan then just because the players do it well on this occasion I'm not about to suddenly start praising the plan am I?

This post is now going around in circles, we lost the points but overall have improved over the last two weeks, we've just got to keep on doing it from now on! Keep the faith.

Bit harsh on yourself there pal, you've only just started!



So the message is: keep working hard and losing, all the while feigning faith in daft lad as the man to lead us into contention?

So regardless of what results Agar and the team gets you will have the same opinion and not give any praise due to you not liking the plan? So if we won 10 on the bounce or won the CC cup for instance, that wouldn't change?

That's fair enough. My issue is with those that blame Agar when we lose and then praise the players when we do well.

Ok then you were taking the mick out of Agar again,who i thought got the game plan right today.Why don't you grow a pair and give Agar a bit of credit for a change instead of the constant anti Agar drivel?.