I thought that everyone currently in the first team squad had been signed, or given an extension, by Agar?

The vast majority, probably still one or two who got long deals under Sharp though (Horne? Manu?)

No they've all re-signed or been signed by Agar.

Agar renewed Horneys, not sure about Manu though

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That being the case, there really isn't an excuse about previous coaches stitching him up.

Clicked on the 'Hull sign up Tigers forward Manu' link and then ended up here rlhttps://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/5415132.stmrl

makes me even more depressed about the current situation! even Horne's kicking was described as being 'pin point'!

Yer I remember that kick from the scrum like it was yesterday, brilliant set move.

When was the last time we even tried something like that?

Then.

You all seem to be missing the point, players signed by Agar are obviously his men, can anyone complain about Fitz, O'Meley and to a lesser extent Long? Then there's Houghton, Briscoe, Westerman, Sharp and to a lesser extent Burnett all signed or given their current contracts by Agar. I'm talking of the likes of Yeaman on big bucks, who gave him that deal? Radford, Dowes both signed reduced deals more in keeping with their worth. It's the paying people more than they're worth that had done for us in 2008 & 2009.

It's funny because it's true.

I see where you're coming from but I take issue with Long in particular. So far that can't be judged as anything but a poor signing.

I agree, i suppose! But who else was available then? The only other I can remember moving clubs was Orford, that turned out well for the Bulls, didn't it? Long was by far the best available.

So why are we still getting the same results, Same Errors , Same predictable rugby from a totally differant side .

If he's on that deal now, it must have been Agar.

Anyway, to me, the issue isn't who we've had playing for us, it's that he has consistently failed to get those players playing consistently to the standard of which they are capable. Both as individuals and as a team.