What some people cannot see is that teams go through bad times ..Who expected Bradford to struggle ..Wigan have struggled over the the passed few years Huddersfield have had problems I can remember Widnes/Leigh/Cas were classed has big teams ..So Hull have had hard times over the last few years but like most teams our luck will change and the good time will come back ..Life is all about swings and roundabouts ..Just think if this was family and thing was going badly would you turn you back on them or would you support them ..Well to a lot of fans Hull F C are they family and they will not turn they back on them .. Over the years I have had Heartaches But also had some good and some fantastic times ..In life you have choices my choice is being a Hull F C fan ..The good times will come back

Bradford and Wigan have fallen due to there own failings

Correct.

And he carries on

. You quite clearly implied that BlackNWhite had said that people who wanted to protest/boycott were not fans, he has clearly said that that's not what he thinks.

As for the rest of your drivel I really can't be bothered to respond to it any further than I already have, Rule and Kaf probably have copies of posts like your's on their office walls to remind them they don't have to try too hard to please.

sorry but I don't believe we are doing badly just through bad luck

Wigan and Bradford let the wrong players leave, and bought overrated imports to replace them. Our recruitment has been similarly shocking.

sides like Leigh/Widnes and Cas come from much smaller towns, and as the game has spread to larger places (or at least tried to) they simply are smaller fish in a bigger pond. But still Cas are out playing us.

our downfall has been our own doing, losing 2/3 of your games in a year isn't bad luck or a freak occurrence.

It's not even worth having the discussion with people who suggest things like that. I respect that they are fans of the club but it's a ridiculous point of view to hold.

Oh and for the record, I fully expected Bradford to struggle, they have a cheap-option coach that I believe to be incompetent.

I am sorry mate but life is about opinions just because people disagree it doesn't make yours or mine right or wrong ..that what life is about fans discussing problems

Are you for real?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but they aren't all equal, if you think our downfall is down to bad luck and the natural cycle of things then you are ignoring all the facts and evidence and you are wrong, simple. Coming on here and saying it doesn't make it anymore correct.

And I agree with the discussion part, but if your view is entirely fatalistic then what's the point of discussing it and seeing what can be done, what will be will be according to you.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I just think you're way off the mark.

you sound a very arrogant individual! it was me who clearly implied that they werent fans(in my option of course) not BlackNWhite as you stirringly put it. And cant you constructively respond to the rest of my (as you put it) drivel??

I did. They recruited badly and have a coach of dubious quality.

Sound at all familiar?


Mainly due to poor recruitment and retention. Oh - and the salary cap finally biting them hard.


Their two biggest problems of recent years are now with us. Can you tell?


We've had some chronic bad luck, particularly with injuries. No question. But it's just one factor, and we've compounded it with rank incompetence.


Not if everyone just sits back and waits they won't. Things need changing at the club if we're going to get back to where we want to be.

...something about Dykes working in a bar and what Eddie & Steveo said?... no I can't be bothered mate, sorry.